This isn’t about them being kicked out, this is about the fact we don’t know the process that resulted in this. Was this a decision Linus made after a night coding and thinking about the world? Was the foundation ordered to do it?

It lacks transparency into the process even if the outcome is fine and the way it was done doesn’t feel transparent, even if it makes sense not to include Russian coders in the project.

These projects are so big and complex that even with open-code a malicious actor is sometimes able to insert damaging code. Who suddenly made this decision? Did the US government order them to do this? If the US government can order them to do this, can they order the elevated coding status of a “benevolent” contributor on the US government payroll who is then ordered to put in a very hard to detect exploit? Open code doesn’t mean exploit free, it means exploits are more likely to be patched.

You don’t get it. It’s the lack of transparency about kicking these people out, not the kicking these people out, that is the problem. Who made the decision?

It makes sense to sanction Russia for being an ass but the way this was done doesn’t feel open, and many people sense it.

It would be much better if the company were not in a place in which gag orders can be issued, leaving questions as to transparency.

As it stands now, it isn’t clear if Linus is just “grouchy” about this with a unique personality or if the foundation got a NSL and can’t say anything. And that leads to questions about whether there were other NSLs other than this one and if it’s had an impact on the code.

Exploits are so hard to detect sometimes if done well and often although they get patched… eventually… the damage is done prior to the patch. The US government, despite doing lots of good things, engages in torture. And even if the US government is the “good guy,” this leads to less trust in the open-source ecosystem, no matter what the justification.

But seriously, Linus’s comment regarding this was… just… I have no words… he basically put every Russian in the same basket, called them trolls

There are a huge number of online Russian trolls. That part of his response was not hyperbolic. They do have troll factories there to influence public opinion.

The problem is this still leads to questions about transparency about the project in general and how this decision was made and whether it was made by those involved in the project or was an order from the US government.

Yes, this is exactly my same thoughts.

This is terrifying.

I don’t like what the Russian government is doing and Putin is cruel and evil, albeit intelligent (which makes him even more terrible).

That being said, in the US, government agencies can order a company to do certain things, put in certain code, or whatever and then issue a gag order as part of that preventing disclosure. And although there’s a limit to how much that can screw over open-source software users, we do not know what exploits nation-states have, we don’t know what backdoors are in different chipsets or closed-source firmware.

If a developer writing open source code can be blacklisted so easily without transparency into the process, it suggests the company is being ordered to do certain things and not disclose them by the US government, which is a government that still engages in torture.

Notice how they are not coming out and saying “We were not ordered to do this by any government agency.”

Could the foundation be forced to elevate a developer with government ties who then is able to “accidentally” put in an extremely hard to detect exploit into linux that won’t be detected at first and only patched later?

I really wish companies associated with linux were not in a country that lacked transparency with government regulations and in which gag orders were not possible.

Finally! Someone who understands! If it’s not something we can understand, it’s not really math.

We need to decide democratically what science is, with everyone getting a fair vote, so wasteful science like this can finally be stopped.

I don’t understand this and therefore it’s stupid and pointless. Fuck you math elitist assholes with your so-called “large” prime numbers spending billions of dollars that could be used to make my life better. I don’t comprehend this at all and there it does not matter. The end.

As little as possible. This will probably be a low traffic site. I just want something cheap and not cloudflare.

I am not sure. I am seeing this response but since there is no quote I don’t know what I wrote.

They are such an adorable couple and he looks so cute back then. It sucks he’s such a horrible person.

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Yep, this too. They used to feel cool despite being a large corporation. Now they feel like a corporate cesspool with Apps and anti-unions and $10 sandwiches smaller than the size of a drink coaster. It’s not fun anymore, and it’s not fun to just be there, especially with people running in and out with the App to just grab things.

But look in the positive side, although they probably lost or will lose 30% of their customer base, at least they can increase profits by 1 percent by having more back-end tracking data to sell from some remaining customers willing to download a shitty ad-infected closed source App!

Their prices are so expensive. Corporate executives do whatever they need to in order to increase profits right now, even if it destroys a customer base.

Starbucks also often don’t have bathrooms anymore. Starbucks used to be a place you could go to, sit down, use a bathroom if you wanted, use the Internet, and then buy something reasonably priced if you felt like it, but also just be there without buying anything.

Now they want KYC through an App before you buy a $20 Latte so you can get a QR code in the App to use a bathroom, if they have one. The enshitification is real and then they are shocked-gasp, shocked!-that fewer people are there. “Why don’t they like the QR Codes?”

Oh my gosh I need this now.

Fedora? 🤢 jk

Also what the fuck is a tiling window manager? I want it!

I’m sorry, can you clarify what you wrote? I read it but then got distracted by my cursor moving on its own while I was reading an article about xzutils. Perhaps I should read it again since it made no sense the first time.

not entirely.

i stopped reading the first paragraph when i read “becoming a christian” and knew the rest of it would be irrelevant, illogical, and pointless.

i read the last sentence of curiosity.

the correct response to the religious is to ignore everything they say and treat their words like the illogical waste of time that they are.

The fact that things like this happen in the US shows how corrupt lawmakers and the judiciary have become.

In the US, if you don’t have money, your life is worthless, according to lawmakers and the courts. And, according to the latest Supreme Court decision signed off on by hypocritical Christian Amy Coney Barret, you can be a criminal just because of being poor: yep, that’s what fake imaginary jesus would have definitely wanted.

She obviously doesn’t believe the bible fairy-tale on some level or she wouldn’t have agreed with the ruling.

Here is her disgusting hypocrisy on full-blast, the supposed Christian, ruling as jesus would, that the poor are criminals for sleeping: https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf/23-175_19m2.pdf. (She did not write it, but as a Pro-life in all cases Christian, the hypocrisy is fucking astounding.)

It’s unbelievably disgusting. Even if she knows jesus is fake, it’s cruel and evil. I am mentioning this case because it sets the tone for how people are treated in the US. If a poor person can be locked up for being unable to stay awake, of course they can pull organs out from a criminal without permission. Why not? They can do anything they want until global warming finally comes with its revenge, destroying the planet for the idiocy of the upper-class selfish myopic morons who demand it with their selfishness.