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Cake day: August 22nd, 2023

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  • WHAT SOCIAL PROGRAM?? The Democrats didn’t run on any of this woke mind virus bullshit you’re complaining about. Trans people were the target of choice for the conservatives despite being basically a miniscule sliver of the population and Democrats just mumbled some generic pablum about privacy and compassion before changing the topic as quickly as possible. In no remote sense was “trans rights” a purity test for the Democrats, as clearly evidenced by all the fucking Republicans involved in the campaign.

    This is just divorced from reality, and maybe that’s the real sentiment you two have landed on, but it’s not because the Democrats did anything to foster it.


  • We’ll never know for sure but there is a clear divide on people who believe progressives were ignored and others that say the party is too extreme left.

    And the important difference between them is any rational mind will see that there wasn’t much further right the party could be and even pretend to be Democrats. What more could have been sacrificed in the name of expediency? Proposing some trans bans rather than just mumbling and changing the subject? Embracing a state by state abortion-rights regime? Lowering taxes for the top 1%?

    Like the only progressive thing I can remember was expanding Medicare services. And I’m pretty sure promising old people more stuff isn’t what the “too far left” people are talking about. There were probably some whitepapers somewhere with tightly restricted benefits that might qualify as something a conservative thinks is progressive, but if so they were basically announced once and then ignored. A campaign isn’t really about the words in its platform, it’s about what it spends time talking about and promoting.





  • I honestly don’t know. He’s not as viscerally mean as Trump, but he’s also a lot smarter. I think some part of him is a fancy boy who wants to be liked and to win by being clever and insightful rather than just brutal. He used to write about his nice life in San Francisco doing community gardening. If he could get the upper-crust to like him (not just use him) that seems like something he’d enjoy.

    But then again, he sold out to the guy he thought was Hitler, so he might just be completely without shame or conscience.


  • Yeah, and the problem is people just kind of stop at “they’re dumb” like that’s just the end of it. “They’re dumb and our opponents are unscrupulous so we’ll never win until dumbness is eradicated”. It’s an influence campaign. Figure out a way to make the dumb people want to vote for you! The dumb people exist, some of them vote, and others could probably be encouraged to vote who don’t.

    No ad agency would stay in business by saying “sorry, we didn’t get you any extra sales, but it’s not our fault because the consumers are dumb, and also you should hire us to do it all over again next time because our failure was the absolute best that could have been done under the circumstances”.