I mean, sure but Dems only really have a chance because Republicans continue to run the shuttiest candidates imaginable. That is absolutely true

Like, Obama won partly because McCain chose to run with Palin. It’s not the only reason he won, but it’s silly to think it wasn’t a major factor - especially considering everything we know about white American voters, that’s been made just as clear as it ever could be. I bet it was a tough decision for some/many Americans

I’ve always wished I could feel like the choice in a general election was a hard decision, but alas I’m working class and brown (and believe in science)

Do those goalposts have little feet on them?

“Democrats wouldn’t do this”

Democrats do this

“No, not like that”

Look, I said it in a dumb meme format so you know it’s true

(I appreciate you for posting here, just making fun of you 😊)

“you go, doom girl”

I like it

Idk how it could. Haven’t tons of companies been announcing layoffs for like tens of thousands of workers for a few years now?

What a joke 😅

Yeah, I couldn’t believe the ridiculous narrative either. After the reading the article though, it at least makes some sense for me as a Mexican-American dude. It’s mainly white people doing better and I guess that totally tracks (also helps explains why so many people here are ready to believe it). I honestly sometimes forget to remind myself “American” hardly ever means all Americans

That said, it’s wild how little discussion there is on this here and how any mention of frustration with the accepted narrative results in others thinking you’re just a bitter idiot, or something

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So now the best time to take that Euro trip?

Seriously though, just went to Italy, France and Netherlands and it was incredibly how cheap and easy it was to fly between different countries. Definitely want to go back for Germany

“No you don’t get it. First, just pretend you think salt is 100% sodium”

Only once they’re full

Does it matter?

Keep up the pressure, y’all! Shit’s working

Dude, conservatives are literally burning banning books everywhere in the country where they have power. They’ve even banned books meant to encourage girls to learn how to code. Real bananas stuff, imo

I appreciate you’re trying to communicate well and you seem authentic and all, but it’s very difficult to take your position seriously when it feels like you’re not trying to challenge your own beliefs. There’s a ton of evidence of conservative censorship going as far back as McCarthyism and interment camps, to rock and roll and rap music, to even burning comic books in the 50s, and that’s just thinking of the US. There’s a very long history of white conservative Christians censoring almost everything popular going back like hundreds of years

As a personal anecdote, my cousin had to break his pokemon gameboy games and burn his pokemon cards because his dipshit mom abusive mother thought they were satanic, simply because her church said so. I got some cool, holographic cards out of it, but I never forgot how messed up that was

Isn’t that explicitly why we manufacture so many of our things there? Isn’t that where most iPhones are still made? What’s the difference here?

Idk, even Nancy Pelosi didn’t accept Biden’s words. So, it’s wild, to me, that an informed citizen would simply accept things the way they’re told they are. Maybe this isn’t about “sources” and more about pundits and narrative-makers/builders - the ones that decide who is “electable”. Not everyone accepted the narrative that Biden wouldn’t step down. Some even had the narrative that he must step down and apparently they were “right” - for lack of a better word (sorry for any poor communication)

That said, you’ve clearly made up your mind and you don’t really seem interested in entertaining this idea, so we really don’t have to keep going

That’s actually totally fair. Maybe that was my mistake, which I appreciate you pointing out! I should’ve made it clear I’m in the very process of doing this myself

I’m trying to understand why I was hesitant about Biden dropping out even when my guy told me we were beyond fucked. Why was AOC hesitant? (I think it makes sense for her, tbh) Why did her insta story just before sway my opinion so much? Who were the people saying this could work and that it would turn out as well as it has? What were theie reasons? Etc.

I’m honestly not sure of all the answers or questions but I personally wouldn’t trust anyone that was saying what has happened was impossible. It very clearly was possible. What else is possible?

Idk, I asked someone else in this thread that and they had a great answer. They mentioned how the way we predict elections has changed since 2016 (or something) and I thought that was super interesting and worth reflecting on. If I answered your question right now it might be something simple like age or someone with a better understanding of history might mention how the current level of wealth inequality compares to previous moments in history

That said, I’m not sure why this similar comment was seen as more offensive. This is literally something I try to do myself when someone I trust is wrong about something. I might not cancel em or whatever but I’ll try to understand what went wrong or maybe just stop listening to them about certain topics they’re consistently wrong on

I respectfully disagree. Y’all are clearly very defensive about this and that’s not going to result in a fruitful discussion, so carry on and don’t even think about reflecting on your sources

What in the projection?

Exactly! I always remember that study on people’s understanding of current events based on the media they consume.

People that didn’t watch any news were more informed than people that watched fox/nbc on current events or international issues , whereas people that watched the daily show or npr were more informed. That and seeing people ridicule Michael Moore over and over despite him always being right (afaik) have been big eye-openers in terms of who to believe. It’s wild they keep putting people on TV that are regularly wrong.

Ok… had to go find it: What you know depends on what you watch. It’s from 2012 but still seems legit.

My bad, I wasn’t trying to offend you! lol That was sincere

Admitting you made a mistake doesn’t have to be the last step. It can be the first! Asking questions can be step 2. Experimenting can be step 3. Idk…

Anyway, it was just a suggestion. You absolutely do not have to reflect on anything if you don’t feel comfortable or it’s too stressful or whatever