Dean Winchester killed Hitler.

Fair point, what kind of voting system do you guys have? Really wish we had ranked choice.

Because people are tribalistic and paint with a very wide brush. And we have a FPTP two party system. So like it or not, liberal, left, feminist, etc memes all get lumped together. It’s up to us to reign in the crazy on our own side lest we look crazy by proxy. Or replace crazy with venom, or whatever you want to call it that is making young men feel more welcome on right.

It’s like that line from the Newsroom. “You know why people hate liberals? Because you lose. If liberals are so smart how come they lose so god damned always?”

I’m on the left and I’m tired of getting my ass kicked because my own party has no strategic or tactical sense, and no unity to rally us. Just infighting and giving the right easy wins and plentiful sticks to beat us with.

No it won’t. That’s not the point though. You talk as if humans are wholly rational. All I’m pointing out is the left are masters of shooting themselves in the foot with how they message and present themselves.

You catch more flies with honey and all that.

Everything you said is true. And will not get you victory. That’s my point. Uncomfortable truths aren’t going to get votes. Hope does.

The right may be liars but their message is essentially pining for better times past.

I am pointing out the uncomfortable truth that we are losing young men to the right, and you guys just down vote instead of face the truth. Hypocrisy.

Lol, the mirror of which is, “I can’t believe people I insult didn’t support my cause!”

Like what’s the win for you guys, to get someone who would have voted with you to be demotivated enough to stay home? And if so, isn’t that just the same childish attitude?

However, young white men are skewing right. Because the only thing the left says to them is they are privileged pieces of shit that are useless rapists that are trusted less than bears. Winning strategy.

What is a tanky? Only heard that after switching to Lemmy. What’s the origin?

Edit: God damn, definition was far more literal than I imagined!

I saw one IRL omw home and I burst out laughing at how stupid it looked. Didn’t stop laughing till I got home.

You are aiming too high. Simply getting people to vote is already a lot because our general election turnout is shameful. Beyond that, primary voting turnout is like abysmal, I think 10% or so last I checked.

Getting primary election turnout up will make the biggest difference in party attitude for the least effort expended.

Being nit picky and pedantic will just get people to grumble and move on to other things.

Be short, to the point, and make the effort you are asking for to be so negligible that people will feel compelled to do that much.

Otherwise you just defeat your own causes by introducing friction that bleeds momentum and energy. Pessimism isn’t effective at galvanizing the left. The left thrives on optimism.

There was a point in time where Firefox had the most market share? When was this?

Well we’ve got two options. Vote for them or not. Which would you recommend people do?

Almost feels like you’re saying that if people do the exact job you put them there to do, that’s not good enough for them to keep their jobs.

It is, of course. So they get my vote.

What states have ranked choice?

I use an older model that’s kind of like this one.

https://a.co/d/eIMfMtB

Tis HEPA, but I’m sure you could get the same effect for cheaper. That said, I’ve been happy with mine for about 4 years now.

Our voter turnout is shameful. And oh man, the primary elections turnout… (Chefs kiss) Abysmal.

Lol, and you don’t know how logic works. You can’t even articulate what you want changed in the status quo in a consistent and sensible manner. I certainly know how things work, which is why I can point out how this entire argument about noise in public is entirely full of holes and nonsense. Life is noisy, deal with it. Or get some ear plugs. And then whine about it on the Internet.

Ah, another arbitrary distinction. I’m sure glad that laws aren’t up to your fickle sensibilities. Should we have a pre approved list of ring tones? Can we use music as ring tones?

So you would like legislation passed to outlaw street performers? If I’m a child for asking these questions, what does that make you, an angry old man yelling at kids? Maybe I’m just not as bothered by people living there lives as you are. I expect noise in public.