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- politics@lemmy.world
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- politics@lemmy.world
The call, an apparent imitation or digital manipulation of the president’s voice, says, “Voting this Tuesday only enables the Republicans in their quest to elect Donald Trump again.”
A prominent New Hampshire Democrat plans to file a complaint with the state attorney general over an apparent robocall that appears to encourage supporters of President Joe Biden not to vote in Tuesday’s presidential primary.
The voice in the message is familiar — even presidential — as it’s an apparent imitation or digital manipulation of Biden’s voice.
“What a bunch of malarkey,” the voice message begins, echoing a favorite term Biden has uttered before.
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I feel like these types of things will be especially bad this year. They won’t be able to catch those responsible fast enough to prevent impact on the primaries, but they should be looking to tie these to the Republicans, and disqualify them from the actual election. We know it’s them. It’s always them.
Why is it so hard for phone companies to stop this? They explicitly allow unverified numbers to just call whoever on their networks. Is there really no way to stop number spoofing?
I have my phone set to block all unknown number calls. I was getting around 40 calls per day.
I was getting around 40 calls per day.
How much porn did you watch? Lol
I don’t think there are many things less democratic than disqualifying an entire party because of a few bad actors. The GOP could turn right around and do the same thing, “because Antifa”. Dangerous, illiberal, antidemocratic, and union-ending.
Okay, tell us who you think is behind these robocalls.
My guess is Russia. Either way, the comment I was replying to wasn’t differentiating between the people sending these calls and Republicans in general.
“Republicans in general” defend “Republicans being terrorists”.
Let’s not split hairs.
A “few bad actors” including the entire party leadership.
You say they “could turn around” as if they haven’t been actively doing this for ages. The treaty is being broken by conservatives, and they do it proudly and with gusto. How long are the rest of reasonable people supposed to stand back and let the country be destroyed by these monsters?
What you want is for the non-conservatives to surrender. You want all the reasonable, sane people that want a better society to roll over and give up and let the ones who desire slavery and genocide back into power. This isn’t the left versus the right – this is the rising tide of fascism against everyone else. You are leaping forward to chasten the victims of the violence for their fantasy about some turnabout while not being clear in your condemnation of the aggressors shows a lack of moral fortitude.
A few bad apples indeed, because they have spoiled the bunch.
Yes, please read my mind and tell me what I want!
Actually, you’re wrong in every regard. I want the extremists out of the GOP, and I want it to live up to its name. Additionally, your reading comprehension of what I wrote is way off base:
The GOP could turn right around and do the same thing, “because Antifa”. Dangerous, illiberal, antidemocratic, and union-ending.
This was in response to the following:
They won’t be able to catch those responsible fast enough to prevent impact on the primaries, but they should be looking to tie these to the Republicans, and disqualify them from the actual election. We know it’s them. It’s always them.
I’m not talking about the Republican Party making an about-face on their current trajectory. I’m saying that as they are, they would love to use the exact same logic to disqualify the Democrats from being in the election. We have seen the weaponization of politics since 2016 only escalate, and it’s clear that whatever tactics one party uses, the other will feel free to engage in as well. Best not to open that can of worms in the first place.
I’ll say it again more clearly. Disqualifying an entire political party from participating in the elections is dangerous, illiberal, antidemocratic, and will result in civil war and the end of the United States. If you say that you want that, then you aren’t thinking very hard about what you’re saying.
Oh god forbid they investigate the source of this election tampering and, when it inevitably is discovered that a Republican was behind it, that Republican be punished in an appropriate way.
You made the decision entirely on your own that the other guy doesn’t give a shit about the truth. But since he’s clearly not a conservative, that’s a bogus assumption – non-conservatives care about the truth, he’s just rightly confident that the GOP is actively trying to undermine democracy and is rightly saying that people who try to undefine the republic do not deserve its seats of power. That’s why he’s so sure an investigation will tie this to the perpetrators.
The Republicans you yearn for haven’t existed since a conservative murdered Lincoln. Stop pining for a return to a better past that never really existed in the first place. Conservatism is the same toxic impulse as nostalgia.
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I don’t know where you get the idea that I don’t think the other guy cares about the truth.
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The assumption that non-conservatives inherently care for the truth is narrow-minded and provably false, just as the assumption that all conservatives inherently don’t care for the truth is.
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Being “rightly confident” without evidence is mighty foolish, and, might I add, arrogant.
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Who’s pining? I’m comfortable with being a centrist Republican for now, although I’ll definitely be rethinking my party affiliation if Trump wins the primaries. That said, you leftists have made even the Democratic party highly unwelcoming to centrists and moderates like myself. I’m starting to wonder if we need a third party. We can call it “The Reasonable Party”, and it would reject extremists from the right and the left.
I don’t get the joke. Where are these alleged leftists who have any significant sway over the dems?
The only reason to identify yourself as a “centrist republican” over a dem in this day and age is because you hold a bunch of weird, conservative, bigoted views that you don’t care to admit or because you’re totally deluded about what these parties have stood for for the last few decades.
There’s no platform in the modern republicans but MAGA and hate. It’s been that way, one way or another, since at least Nixon. And while the dems have hardly held an uninterrupted tenure as being the camp for progressives, liberals, and practical socialists, there’s no doubt they’re the party of everyone who isn’t fucking insane right now.
I don’t respect your half-baked politics. You’re identifying yourself as Republican on some weird-ass personal pride, as best I can tell, and you should stop.
I don’t get the joke. Where are these alleged leftists who have any significant sway over the dems?
You’ve got to be living under a rock to not see it. I’m not saying they have as much influence as the MAGA crowd have over the GOP, but still, it’s undeniably there.
The only reason to identify yourself as a “centrist republican” over a dem in this day and age is because you hold a bunch of weird, conservative, bigoted views that you don’t care to admit or because you’re totally deluded about what these parties have stood for for the last few decades.
I identify myself as a centrist Republican because I am registered as a Republican and I am politically centrist. There’s no more to it than that.
I don’t respect your half-baked politics. You’re identifying yourself as Republican on some weird-ass personal pride, as best I can tell, and you should stop.
Centrism/moderatism is commonly derided by partisans on both sides, so I’m used to it. I assure you, however, that there is nothing “half-baked” about it. I am not wishy-washy or uncommitted to the political causes that I believe in. I am simply not as religious about it as you are. I can accept good points made by both sides and am more focused on being an American than I am on my political party.
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No, launch them from a trebuchet into a volcano.
Republicunts had over 150 years since we smashed their asses in during the civil war to act right.
They can’t. Too bad so sad.
You do realize that the Republican Party didn’t exist in the Confederacy? It was originally founded in the United States just before the civil war and was the party that actually won the war and ended slavery. In fact, until the mid-20th century, the Democratic party was the conservative party of the United States and was responsible for instituting the Jim Crow laws.
Oh, it’s not gonna be just robocall stuff. It’s gonna be a full-on inundation of deepfake videos, and they’re going to be pushing from one side way harder than the other.
Or it’s North Korea.
Someone should do this for Trump - his dumbass supporters would probably fall for it.
There’s nothing you could make a fake Trump say that could be worse than what he has already said. Conservatives like the fact that he’s a piece of shit. It gives them permission to be pieces of shit, too.
Not all of us Republicans are conservative.
If you plan on voting for traitor trump then you’re a piece of shit. Full stop.
No argument there.
You’ve clearly noticed the overwhelming number of conservatives who are pieces of shit, and instead of acknowledging that the movement itself is rotting, you asked, “how can I make this about me?” I can’t decide if you’re just virtue signaling, or trying to deflect the conversation into some rhetorical nonsense about offending the reasonable conservatives.
Don’t worry, I am not easily offended. Nor am I conservative.
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