• Cowbee [he/him]@lemmy.ml
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    19 days ago

    No, the Repubs are also evil.

    What is your solution? How are you proposing fascism be stopped?

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      19 days ago

      You’re right about organizing outside of elections. You’re wrong about “elections alone cannot fix it therefore throw your ballot in the garbage.” Whatever the solution is, I would rather attempt it under a slower transition into fascism.

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        19 days ago

        Fascism comes from continuously deteriorating material conditions, not from whichever party is in power. Harris is already campaigning on improving conditions for “small business owners,” continuing Capitalism in decay continues fascism’s ascent. My point is that voting will not slow down or speed up fascism, that’s something that comes with the economic conditions of society and the class relations within.

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          19 days ago

          There’s no difference between Harris’s “small business owners” and Donald’s “dictator day one” in terms of fascism, I see.

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            19 days ago

            What do you think fascism is? A mold? The Democrats are not anti-fascist, they are the polite face of a duopoly.

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              19 days ago

              Sorry, I’ll try to go with your definition of fascism. So fascism is when protestors are arrested, either because they deliberately got themselves arrested or if they are snatched up in black vans.

              We went over this. Both sides bad. Ratchet effect. Therefore instead of trying to rest against a tooth, let it click backwards another step.

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                19 days ago

                You can’t “rest against a tooth,” the positions of the parties aren’t unflinching, unchanging policies but reflections of economic conditions. The Democrats haven’t abandoned Medicare for All because the Republicans vibed themselves to the right and they followed, but because economic conditions are deteriorating as disparity rises.

                You’re taking the ratchet effect metaphor far too literally. As the Material Conditions change, so too do the policies of the ruling parties, they are not guided by popular sentiment.

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                  19 days ago

                  Whether we are under Dems or Repubs, economic conditions are the exact same for everyone, I see. Are student loans the right direction? No, of course, Dems deliberately caused Repubs to obstruct that. Dems are Repubs. Therefore throw a ballot in the trash.

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                    19 days ago

                    Are you capable of answering my comment in good-faith? I do not give a hoot who you vote for, voting for Harris will not stop fascism, and neither will voting for Stein or Crúz, nor will voting for Trump, obviously. Fascism is Capitalism in decay. Disparity is rapidly rising regardless of who is in power.

                    It’s the fact that economic conditions move in the same direction regardless of which party is in power that a vote for Harris does not slow fascism down. Fascism is not synonymous with Republican. Fascism isn’t a policy that can be enacted. Fascism is a defense mechanism for decaying Capitalism, and neither party being in power will change the overwhelming force of that decay as Capitalism continues to swell to the point of bursting.