• atomWood@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    I’m not really sure that’s a fair argument. Android generally pushes Google Play, and Samsung devices push Samsung pay. Sure, Android has more choices, but it’s still device manufacturers pushing their own products.

    Of course Apple should allow competition within their ecosystem, but Samsung and Google are basically doing the exact same thing.

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      1 year ago

      I mostly agree, but then I think about how I have a Samsung phone but can still use Google Wallet instead of Samsung Pay because it’s an open ecosystem. They both push their own products, but the end user is ultimately able to use whatever product they want. This is clearly not the case for Apple, which is what I’m guessing the case is about.

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        1 year ago

        It has to be this. As a non apple device user, I can use ANY pay system EXCEPT Apple pay. You must own an apple device to use it. There might be some roundabout way on PC with iTunes, but even if there is, it’s unaccessible on a phone.

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      1 year ago

      “Pushing” their services is one thing. Blocking access to the NFC, as Apple does with iPhones, is much worse. IMHO, neither should be permitted.

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    1 year ago

    ~I thought there were third-party payment systems on the iPhone already (including ones using NFC)?

    And even the convenience advantage Apple Pay enjoys should be gone on the 15 Pro at least as you can map your third-party payment app to the action button.~

    EDIT: I stand corrected, see replies.

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        1 year ago

        Nevermind then. I could’ve sworn I read somewhere that a bank on my country had their own payment system available on the iPhone.

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        1 year ago

        As blatantly anti-competitive as it may be, I don’t want to be in a position where, if I want to pay for something with my phone, I’m forced to use whatever shitty application my bank decides to implement (I’ve had banking applications just decide to stop working for a few days, for no apparent reason; there are banks that have countless applications, each doing something slightly different, with complex, oftentimes downright hostile authentication methods, involving combinations of these apps)

        I like the fact that, regardless of card I use, they’re all exposed through the same simple Wallet application, that always works.

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          1 year ago

          For NFC, no one really does that even on Android even though NFC is available for use. Instead, in some countries they use QR-code payments to bypass the NFC limitations that Apple imposed.

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            1 year ago

            I’ve seen that done in Germany, and I was kind of shocked. You could only pay using NFC from the banks’ app.

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              1 year ago

              Man that’s pretty stupid. I’m guessing they don’t use Visa/Mastercard and instead use a proprietary protocol?