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    5 months ago

    He does, did, and I linked the sources.

    You’re right, he does have a prescription…it’s just one that doesn’t work in practice despite being tried over and over again for more than a century at this point.

    Capitalism cannot be truly democratic, only Socialism can be.

    Sure seems like this country at least gets a say in voting for who runs it, unlike many, many socialist examples (with great reading scores! yay!) where they are not only not doing that, but it is prohibited structurally (or behind the scenes through radioactive tea administration).

    Also, don’t bend my ear with all the grand achievements of socialist countries that are decidedly not democratic and then pay lip service to democracy.

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      You’re right, he does have a prescription…it’s just one that doesn’t work in practice despite being tried over and over again for more than a century at this point.

      It does and has worked. What do you believe is sufficient to decide if something does or does not work?

      Sure seems like this country at least gets a say in voting for who runs it, unlike many, many socialist examples (with great reading scores! yay!) where they are not only not doing that, but it is prohibited structurally (or behind the scenes through radioactive tea administration).

      Socialist countries do in fact have elections, voting, and so forth.

      Also, don’t bend my ear with all the grand achievements of socialist countries that are decidedly not democratic and then pay lip service to democracy.

      Why not? Why do you say Socialist countries aren’t democratic?

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        Why not? Why do you say Socialist countries aren’t democratic?

        What countries are you counting?

        The former USSR, China, Cuba, North Korea, and on and on do not hold elections.

        The northern European (and other socialist-lite countries) that are closer to what I would want for America didn’t abolish capitalism… So…

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          The USSR, PRC, Cuba, and DPRK all hold elections and practice(ed) some form of democracy.

          They were not structured like Capitalist elections, but nonetheless had and have elections.

          Social Democracy depends on Imperialism and Capitalism in the global north, is inherently unsustainable, and sees sliding of worker protections and rights over time, just like what happened following the New Deal in America. Reading theory makes it clear why.

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            The USSR, PRC, Cuba, and DPRK all hold elections and practice(ed) some form of democracy.

            Lol, alrighty we’re done here. 😆

            Edit: The only time tankies believe in voting is when they’re on lemmy hitting the downvote icon on the deep posts. 😜

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                They’re sham elections. You telling me that fucking haircut in the DPRK is God emperor of North Korea because he has some mandate from the masses? He’s atop the throne because he’s the son of the last blowhard.