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Found it first here - https://mastodon.social/@BonehouseWasps/111692479718694120
Not sure if this is the right community to discuss here in Lemmy?
Zero art has been stolen.
You cannot steal a jpg.
And protecting copyright is supporting big corporations.
Apart from - you know, all the photographers, designers, authors and musicians out there.
You mean the ones who routinely come out saying how X corporation stole their work and they received nothing for it?
The ones where if you try to challenge the corporations hoarding human cultural works you’ll find yourself in a legal battle you can’t afford to enter.
The amount of times an artist “wins” in the system vs a corporation is laughable. It’s designed to protect you and I, like the rest of the legal system does (it doesn’t).
Yes.The ones who routinely use copyright to get some form of payment. I know several people who had their photographs reublished by the Daily Mail and subsequently got payment. It happens. It’s an imperfect system, but still one that allows small artists to make a living.
I mean, it really isn’t. It’s the entire backbone of an industry whereby, for example a photographer or illustrator can supply woirk to a magazine on a single use license. It’s how people who supply photo libraries make a living. It’s how small bands have at least some protection.
I do like your libertarian line of reasoning. If the law doesn’t work very well, it should be abolished. I’ve seen people say the same thing about the EPA and OSHA.
The difference is, even if it worked properly I would still not be in favour of denying people freedom to use cultural works.
Of course you believe corporations are people.
Are you a professional at making shit up?
I’m an anarchist, I don’t believe in companies existing at all.
I referred to OpenAI and you shot back “people.”
But hey, if a joke finally got you to start reading the stuff I was writing…
Because the focus is on people, I don’t care if it benefits a company secondarily.
OpenAI corporation is stealing people’s work
Oh did they break into their house and take their only version?
Copying is not theft.
Whatever you call stealing from the powerless and giving to the powerful.
Maybe you think plagiarist deserve more ad revenue than the minorities they plagiarize from. I think your defense of the powerful is pretty gross, and I hope you are at least getting paid for it.
It’s really weird how so many people have become advocates for abolishing copyright the moment it benefits a giant corporation. No thought, no nuance, just “copyright bad.”
It would be like somebody shouting about abolishing unions during the Starbucks protests, because police unions exist.
People have been saying Copyright is BS since at least the 90s when Disney pulled their shenanigans (again) and probably even before that
But isn’t it funny that so many of them have emerged when their nuance-free absolutism helps a big corporation and not the people it’s harming?
Copyright is not the same thing as intellectual property though
Copyright is law which is used to prevent free copying of media, while “intellectual property” is a term cooked up by corporate suits to generalize copyright, trademarks, and patents and equate them with property law. Richard Stallman wrote about this.
Intellectual property comes before any of those things. If I paint a picture, it’s my intellectual property whether I apply for some legal definition or not.
It’s not the same thing as a copyright. Anyone can have intellectual property
OpenAI Corp applauds your defense of their theft
Um no, we’re defending actual open AI models, I couldn’t give 2 shits about OpenAI. They have the funding to license things, but that open source model? Trying to compete against big corporations like Microsoft and Google? They don’t.
You’re actually advocating for the big corporations, what’s going to happen if things go the way you want is the truly open models will die off and big corporations will completely control AI from then on. Is that what you really want?
The music industry wants to honour you at their next awards night for fighting piracy.
I want protections for all smaller artists. Why are you fighting on behalf of OpenAI?
Because I want the abolishment of all copyright and IP. Why are you fighting against liberating human culture?
You’re fighting for them because you don’t want them to have barriers in their corporate growth. Okay.
IP laws are a last resort in encouraging people to be creative. Remind me, which of us hate creativity?