• ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works
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    5 months ago

    Went from “yeah let’s invade Iraq and stop Saddam!” to “oh man we made a mistake”

    Oof.

    The change in Israeli policy, accepting gay marriage, rejecting iraq invasion, and support for labor rights… Where and how did the Democratic Party arrive at these positions?

    There was a short period of time when the Democratic Party pursued a strategy that involved more than those specific named categories. Howard Dean, another Vermont progressive, ran the DNC from 2005-2009 and helped facilitate Obama’s victory in deep red stated and even a dominating congressional position.

    He was removed in 2009. The Democrats have been stringing along some hefty Ls since, even though a progressive, leftist strategy was proven to work.

    The faction that beat away Dean is the same that undermined Sanders twice.

    https://www.politico.com/story/2009/12/what-if-obama-hadnt-ostracized-dean-030752

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      5 months ago

      Where and how did the Democratic Party arrive at these positions?

      That’s an extremely complicated question to answer, but I’m sure you have some simple-sounding conspiracy theory that ties everything together neatly if you don’t look too deeply into it. Let’s hear it.

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          5 months ago

          I guess I haven’t drank enough kool-aid to tie together Howard Dean, Bernie Sanders, and the several examples of Democrats changing positions that I mentioned.

          But I’ll guess it somehow involves the big bad Deep State DNC intentionally sabotaging the glorious majority of Leftist voters who would otherwise dominate political discourse, because they’re just that fucking evil or something.

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            5 months ago

            Well there is this whole extremely dismissive arrogance kind of thing, but I’m not sure I would call it evil?

            See I was only going for the corporate donor backlash over and during the ACA legislation and the effects of the Citizens United/SpeechNow decisions that came thereafter.

            It’s clear that’s all too much to get into, unfortunately, what with all the contempt.