I’m over tinkering with my OS. So I’m looking for a distro that “just works” out of the box for my laptop. Also I want to test an “easy” distro I can install for my grandpa.
I don’t care for immutability, declarative config, being fully FOSS or having the newest stuff. I don’t want snaps, or a software center that relies on them. So no Ubuntu.

What I do want (ideally out of the box):
Important:

  • as few annoying visible bugs and crashes as possible (looking at you, Ubuntu)
  • Wayland support
  • good package selection, so no independent fringe distro
  • fluid YouTube videos, streaming, pre-installed codecs

Less important:

  • ideally with Gnome
  • encrypting the hard drive from within the GUI installer
  • nice font rendering (used to be a problem, but I guess not anymore)
  • installing Steam with a button press
  • pre-installed sane-airprint and sane-airscan (automatic setup of my networked printer-scanner-combo)

You get the idea. The usual stuff (low-end gaming, browsing, streaming, printing, scanning) should just work. I don’t have any hardware that poses a problem.
From what I’ve read, Mint doesn’t yet support Wayland and doesn’t ship with video codecs anymore. (Or am I wrong?)
What are the other options? Is Zorin king of the block now? Is Manjaro good now?

Thanks for any and all input.

  • AChiTenshi@sh.itjust.works
    41·
    5 months ago

    Out of curiosity why do you not want snaps? I consider myself a beginner with Linux and would love to know what makes you not want to use them.

    • bigmclargehuge@lemmy.world
      7·
      5 months ago

      Performance issues/bloated disk usage and their forced use within Ubuntu.

      The performance issues come from the fact that they run via virtualization. Similar to running a game on an emulator. This helps with compatibility, ie being able to run a Snap on an ARM computer when the native version isn’t available, but again, performance can take a hit.

      Bloated disk usage is a result of each Snap including all dependancies with the base package. For example, if two Snaps rely on the same font, you get two copies of that font. If two native packages rely on the same font, you get one copy, and they share.

      The forced usage literally boils down to this; on Ubuntu, typing “apt install example-package” actually runs the command “snap install example-package” (Edit: I should note this isn’t the case with all packages, but there are some pretty high profile ones on the list, ie Thunderbird). Canonical A; isn’t up front about this, therefor leading users into believing they are getting native packages when this isn’t the case, and B; make it frustratingly difficult to disable this behaviour and get only native packages

      IMO if a company creates a product and then feels the need to force and trick their users into adopting it, that alone is enough to discourage me from ever choosing it over the alternatives.

    • KISSmyOSFeddit@lemmy.worldOP
      2·
      5 months ago

      I don’t have personal experience with them, but I keep hearing they’re very slow to start.
      And I dislike them on principle, because Canonical tries to push snaps as the main distro-agnostic way of installing software, but they are hard-coded to only work with Canonical’s servers. It reminds me of the embrace-extend-extinguish strategy of Microsoft.

      • GravitySpoiled@lemmy.mlEnglish
        2·
        5 months ago

        Snaps aren’t that slow anymore. They closed the gap a couple of months ago. (I still dislike snaps and ubuntu for pushing them)

      • theshatterstone54@feddit.uk
        2·
        5 months ago

        I’m far from an enjoyer of snaps BUT snaps do support other custom stores and aren’t tied to the snap store, contrary to popular belief.

        Also, the fix for making snap startup times has been developed and released but most existing snaps haven’t patched their snaps to support it (last I heard, the only notable exception (aka the only known snap to have good startup times) is the Firefox snap).

        • KISSmyOSFeddit@lemmy.worldOP
          4·
          5 months ago

          snaps do support other custom stores

          From what I read they only support one single snap store though, so if you don’t use the Canonical store, you lose access to all the third party software that’s actually the point of snaps.

          • RmDebArc_5@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
            2·
            5 months ago

            Snap does theoretically support other stores, but the code for the canonical store is proprietary so you’d have to reverse engineer a snap store and hope that canonical doesn’t break it with an update. Also apart from Ubuntu nobody uses snaps so why would anyone make a snap store? Btw they have improved snaps with faster start times and such, so they aren’t that much slower than packages or flatpak.