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    Who is it that you think wants to prioritize sending weapons to Israel?

    It’s like “Do you want this scone, or for me to shit on your carpet?” The number of people outside of niche communities who have uncertainty about the choice is not gonna be real significant (although some may answer it by expressing confusion about the question in the first place instead of just saying, the scone.)

    I don’t know why I spent this amount of time on this bizarre conversation, but on the off chance that you sincerely hold these beliefs and think this is a relevant question, I hope you find the enlightenment about it that you seek.

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      I’m telling you. Check my comment history.

      Who is it that you think wants to prioritize sending weapons to Israel?

      I’m not sure I understand what you mean. Most Republicans (except MAGA) I’m sure. And a good percentage of Democrat voters. I suspect lots of those Democrat voters voted for Joe Biden in the 2020 primaries.

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        Therrrrre it is

        After some extended conversation we’ve arrived at why you want to ask the question in this particular convoluted way: Because you want to imply a particular narrative, where having a more direct version of the conversation would instantly expose that what you’re trying to imply is a bunch of crap.

        I asked the straightforward version of your question, the answer to which you can check out, in the unlikely-to-me event that you seriously believe what you’re saying here.

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          Because you want to imply a particular narrative

          … Are you new to political discussions? That’s everybody.

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            Everybody who’s a phony, a big fat phony, maybe.

            And one hallmark of the big fat phonies is that they try to claim everyone else is a big fat phony, too.

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              Maybe we’re talking about different things. I’m defining a narrative as the way someone describes how they perceive something. If I tell you how I think the world works that’s a narrative. And in a political conversation most people engage in the hopes of either finding someone who agrees with their narrative or hopes to convince someone of their narrative.

              Do you disagree with that?

              By the way, your comments are getting a bit more aggressive and it’s unwarranted. I haven’t called you any names so there’s no need to call me any. If you do it again we can just end the conversation.

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                the way someone describes how they perceive something

                I don’t think you actually think that lots of people on Lemmy support Israel. I think you know that the general opinion is wildly anti-Israel (as it should be), and you’re deliberately linking “Biden” to “Israel” by pretending to misunderstand what you’re seeing, in the hope that the anti-Israel sentiment will translate to anti-Biden sentiment by pure word association.

                That’s what I meant by “a narrative” – maybe it would have been more accurate for me to say “a dishonest propaganda narrative” instead, to distinguish it from the simple factual description of a narrative that you gave.