Hello I’m Doctor_Rex I’m the OP of this post:
My Windows 10 install broke, but I’m hesitant to switch to Linux.
I’d like to start by thanking everybody who responded to my questions. Your answers have helped a lot when it came to my worries on switching to Linux.
I’ve taken in a lot of your recommendations: Fedora, Fedora Kinoite, Nobara, Bazzite Linux, VanillaOS,
I’ve decided on Fedora Kinoite, as it has everything I want from a distro.
It was very kind of you all to answer my questions but after making that post and reading your answers new questions propped up.
These questions are a little more opinionated than the last ones, and a little better thought out, but please take some time to answer them.
Questions:
- Is Wayland worth using? Especially when you consider all the issues that may come from using an NVIDIA card.
Are there any real noticeable advantages/improvements to using Wayland over Xorg.
- Does bloat actually matter or is it just a meme?
Does bloat actually have a noticeable negative impact on your system or are people just over reacting/joking.
- What are some habits I should practice in order to keep my system organized and manageable?
Any habits or standards that I should abide by in order to save myself headaches in the future?
- Any other resources besides the Arch Wiki that I should be aware of?
Self explanatory.
- What do you wish you knew when you first started using Linux that would have saved you a headache in the future?
I’m not referring to some skill but instead something pertaining to Linux itself. Feel free to skip this question.
I’ll be going to sleep soon, so apologies if I don’t reply but please take a moment answer any questions you think you can.
Thank You!
Edit: AUR = Arch Wiki. Fixed a typo
I’ve been running kinoite on my laptop for a short while now, and I wanted to address a few miscellaneous things.
First: I recommend trying the out of the box experience for a while before going far customizing it. For example, someone mentioned your filesystem layout with subvolumes: that’s the default in kinoite: home, var, and root are in subvolumes.
Second: Wayland either is or is about to be the default in fedora (I’m running the beta for the next version, and it’s Wayland by default). Try it and see if you have issues before trying to switch to x11.
Flatpak is your first stop for installing software on kinoite, but the fedora repo that’s configured by default is missing a lot. If <your favorite search engine> shows software available that you don’t see in discover/flatpak, you need to add the flathub repo, which is easy to do, but not obvious (to me) that it wasn’t the default.
Finally, Nvidia experience might not be good ootb. You might need to take extra steps to get the proprietary Nvidia driver.
Good luck with your endeavor!
Edit: Firefox
I don’t understand why the default install of Firefox isn’t the flatpak version. Switch to the flatpak version and you won’t have to worry about codecs.
Lol, I just noticed that this thread is 3 weeks old… How is your setup working out?
Is Wayland worth using?
For a first dive into the Linux ecosystem, I recommend Xorg. I use Wayland myself (Hyprland), and that’s why I know that it’s simply not ready for general adoption. There are many features that are missing, won’t be implemented, or are done much differently compared to X. Some say Xorg is old and bloated - I say it’s a mature technology.
There are also some applications that need root privileges to work (Veyon Configurator is one that I struggled a lot with) and you have to do some weird
pkexec
hackery to launch them.Wayland’s development has more drama and bickering than an average sitcom - I recommend Brodie Robertson’s channel if you’re interested.
advantages/improvements to using Wayland
Wayland is better for gaming. It has a noticeably lower latency because the entire Wayland stack is implemented in a single program (what they call the compositor) as opposed to several in the X11 stack (X server, compositor, window manager) that need to communicate with each other. Unfortunately Steam and some other applications often produce graphical artifacts on Wayland+Nvidia.
Does bloat actually matter
Compared to Windows, it is insignificant. My work laptop is a Macbook Air from 2015 running Linux Mint on just 4G RAM without issues.
Any other resources besides the Arch Wiki that I should be aware of?
Install the
tldr
program. It’s a bit likeman
but lists practical examples of a command instead of a full documentation.What are some habits I should practice
Make use of your home directory. Most user applications will have a config file in several places - usually in
~/.config
(user config) and/etc
(systemwide config). You should only edit the systemwide config when it makes sense, and always prioritize the user config.A common practice is to have your
/home
directory on a different partition, or a different physical device. If the system breaks or you decide to distrohop, you can unmount/disconnect/home
and only wipe the root partition while retaining your user files.I also recommend using
Timeshift
to back up your system. It’s even better if your root partition uses btrfs since it natively supports snapshots.What do you wish you knew when you first started using Linux
I needed to leave the Windows ways behind me. On Windows, I had a hard drive mounted as F: and an external HDD mounted as H:. Moving to Linux (Manjaro at the time) was basically a snap decision since Windows had obliterated the boot partition during an update and then broke itself, and I
had no idea how to properly set up the filesystemdidn’t consider how I wanted to set up the filesystem, so I mounted them to/mnt/f
and/mnt/h
on a whim. It caused me many hours of headache later.I wouldn’t worry about wayland vs xorg at this point. There are reasons to prefer one over the other but, as a new user, if it works it works. And if something is broken, it’s easy to switch between them (I assume it’s an option in the login screen?).
I’d just recommend whatever your distro defaults to, because that’s what they think works best.
Same as systemd if you stumble upon an argument about that at some point. It’s something the distro has made a decision about and taken care of, so it’s not something you have to choose.
As for a tip: On Linux, the “app store” (I think it’s called “Discover” in KDE?) is actually pretty good compared to Windows. If possible, applications should be downloaded from there rather than directly from websites.
You should never download software off of websites. That is really bad practice and will break things sooner or later.
the gentoo wiki is also a great resource !!
wayland seems to be the way desktop linux is going, personally i like it and am migrating over w plasma 6, but ymmv mrowz
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