We’re a small tight knit community. We see the same names everywhere. I’m sure many of you have been recognised by strangers before.

What is your claim to Lemmy fame.

(Question inspired by, https://lemmy.world/comment/19964547)

  • Valmond@lemmy.world
    43·
    5 days ago

    You tell me, I don’t think lots of people remember me (except the angry tankies ^^).

      • Valmond@lemmy.world
        23·
        5 days ago

        Ha ha fair.

        I love to troll a tankie but I’m serious but probably more harsh with anarchists, because it sounds very very good, but it also seems like it doesn’t work, so wanna sell me heaven you gotta have some solid plans, again IMO. Still curious though.

        • SnokenKeekaGuard@lemmy.dbzer0.comOP
          31·
          5 days ago

          I know everyone hates this answer. But if you think anarchists haven’t made a good case it means you haven’t listened.

          David Graeber, Naom Chomsky, Saul Newman, Kropotkin, Bakunin, Goldman, Colin Ward. Theres serious academic and theoretical ideas in their vast works that are picked from real world communities.

          It’s honestly shocking that you think there isn’t enough anarchist theory when every other community on Lemmy links to the anarchist library everyday.

          Not only do they have solid plans they have proof of concept for many cases.

          • Valmond@lemmy.world
            13·
            5 days ago

            Ya, but empiric evidence is important, so where is it outside small groups? There are books about how communism, nazism, democracy, christianity (the list goes on…) is so great, but history seems to have some clear answers when they are actually tried out.

            • SnokenKeekaGuard@lemmy.dbzer0.comOP
              3·
              5 days ago

              And is there one thing on the planet that has turned out well?? Has capitalism lol.

              Noone is calling for a utopia but a better way of building society.

              I’m really not one who tries to convert people honestly, I’m not a debate bro or anything. You have a sea of knowledge of people much smarter than me in front of you, you are free to make up your own mind.

              • Valmond@lemmy.world
                33·
                5 days ago

                At least you’re honest, and yeah I’m one of those people needing to question/answer things.

                But saying “thing A is bad, that means B is okay” is just a fallacy. Also, “building a better society?” Yeah I’m all for it obviously, but those anarchists I have discussed with seems to want to replace our society, which seems more than risky. We’re here today by bettering things during millennia, with ups and downs. Are there still things to fix and make better and even scrap outright? Totally. Is there another system that will work better? Maybe but you have to argue why. IMO.

                As you don’t like q/a I’ll leave it here (except if you have any questions or anything of course).

                Cheers

                • SnokenKeekaGuard@lemmy.dbzer0.comOP
                  3·
                  5 days ago

                  That is quite a misguided opinion. But a rather common one. ‘Capitalist realism’ is where I recommend you start. We have NOT bettered things during the millennium by adding things to a system, capitalism is very young. You desperately need to read some history before holding opinions that strong. Capitalism revolutionary displaced a system before it. Communist and socialist states have done so too.

                  Thing a is bad, b is good is ridiculous. Thing b is better because of its intrinsic qualities and not as an offspring of the other. Anarchism is not good because of capitalism but its own moral values. And its why anarchists are consistently in fights with tankies etc. Because we dont define ourselves by a contrast to capitalism. Even though a fight against private property is a primary concern.

                  So no one is making that claim but you, you are refuting an idea you yourself have pulled out of thin air.

                  Again I don’t care about who you’ve discussed anything with. If you want real theory, its readily available. The anarchist library is a brilliant hub of knowledge, because anarchists dont hide knowledge lol.

                  You consistently seem to want someone to come sit you down and explain to you why you should pretty please like anarchism while treating it like childish folly. When you can freely educate yourself with free resources.

                  And once again there ARE good arguments, thats what the theory is.

                  • Valmond@lemmy.world
                    33·
                    5 days ago

                    So:

                    • I’m misguided like so many

                    • I should read these books

                    • You do good

                    • You don’t want to discuss any questions

                    • There is “theory” that explains everything

                    You sound like someone promoting a religion.