Do you actually own anything digital?::From ebooks, to videos and software, the answer is increasingly no
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If it’s on my Jellyfin server, I own it as much it’s possible to own anything.
If they wanted me to pay for it, maybe they shouldn’t have dicked me around, watering down my subscribed services while simultaneously jacking up the price.
Mate lets start a new 123.movies from your servers we will be millionares
you don’t have to pay for it, but you’re also not entitled to it no matter how much they dick around with their service.
do you really feel like they’ve wronged you in some way and pirating gets you even?
Yes.
yes
Wronged me? Yep. Absolutely.
What do you mean by “entitled” here? Could you explain that word in that context to me?
He’s saying that you shouldn’t feel like you deserve the products you paid for… Not really sure what he’s advocating for though :')
nah I’m good
i do if i stole it
Based af
ARRR!!!
If I can actually download it and it’s DRM-free, yes.
The only certain way to own digital products is apparently to pirate it illegally.
Gog provides DRM free installers when buying games at their store
And plenty of steam games are DRM-free too.
I really wish steam made it clear though. Should have to come with a tag stating DRM/no DRM. Shit, let us filter games by its DRM status.
Don’t all games on Steam get the basic DRM treatment?
Nah, it’s optional
However, because steam doesn’t tell you which games are DRM, and companies have been known to arbitrarily add DRM in updates, I generally treat steam games as being DRM games
Nah, you can buy it legally and break the drm illegally. That is what someone I know very well does with my, ahm, their ebooks.
Removing DRM from content you bought is actually legal
What’s illegal is doing so for the purposes of sharing whatever was DRM’d in the first place
Not that it stops me
It depends on the jurisdiction. Removal is illegal in some countries
Fyi, steam doesn’t add additional DRM to games. So long as the maker hasn’t added anything significant, you can often just copy the game folder out, and run it independently. There’s nothing (in theory) to stop you backing it up yourself.
Steam itself is drm though. If you have a pc that can’t connect to the internet or is no longer compatible with steam (like an XP pc for example), even if you have the game files, you can’t play then without first installing and updating steam.
I have an XP pc for period-era gaming and I can’t touch anything steam related for it so instead I have to either look for them on the internet archive or hope there is still a torrent for such an old game. Or failing both, actually find a physical copy. This still means I can’t really play Valve’s XP games though because of their requirement of Steam no matter how you bought the game.
Sort of, but only if you’re launching through Steam. You can launch DRM-free Steam games through the executable file without launching Steam if you already have the files downloaded.
Games on Steam don’t require Steamworks or any other DRM, if your game won’t launch without Steam running that’s a choice by the game developer and not a restriction imposed for Steam.
There is a whole list of drm-free games that will work without the launcher or with instructions on how to make them run without the launcher. If a game makes use of Steam’s APIs, it won’t run without proper authentication when opened with the launcher even if it is drm-free. You would need to launch it directly from the game’s files in that case.
I’ll look into it, saves me buying a game again on gog
There’re few games that work like that. Many use the steam basic drm, making the game not launching if a valid steam session is not running.
That’s why I have the generic steam crack. In case they pull the plug some day.
GOG, buy music in mp3/flac format, not sure about video. I guess you can pay for subscription and just pirate stuff you like to keep real ownership.
I like that on GOG you know you own it because they let you download the installer DRM free so you literally can keep a separate copy of all of your purchases. You will always have access to them regardless of what happens to GOG. Videos, music, games, everything they sell.
Yep, I always check GOG first when I want to buy a game on PC.
I think I own my fingers, so them.
Those who down voted you are either idiots, or hate clever wordplay
or they just hate OP for still having their fingers
If you’re on Lemmy, you almost certainly understand the problem and know how to acturally own digital stuff.
The problem is all the normies who can’t even see the problem. We need everyone to be protected by law and it all to be citizen oriented. As the moment, it’s all stacked in favour of exploitive multinational companies. Maybe ever was it so, but we need to fight that.
We treat it as a tech problem, something to work round, but it’s a political problem and we need to solve it politically.
This.
Also, we all here are aware of the problem, to the point where such posts are nothing but circlejerk.
The article might come as eye-opener to some, but certainly not here. Time for solutions. And they are political.
Drives me mad the main stream seam unaware/ignoring that it’s about anything free piracy. You hear next to nothing about the problem of DRM, digital ownership, digital freedom or even proper competition in proper markets. There is sometimes mentions of Right To Repair, but they never follow the thread. Or talk about how the internet runs on FOSS. A FOSS system like Debian is a wonder, that still, after 15y of use, floors me when I think about it. A utopian vision of humans can do.
I get you
Drives me even more insane when they actively complain about losing access to something, or not having it available offline, and do nothing about it
Like, here’s the super simple solution, just take it!
But they won’t sacrifice a tiny bit of their habit to break free. They’ll keep on whining about the world and not doing anything, even when they are directed to it with the most simple, grandma-style guidance.
They can’t really perceive what is being done to them. They can notice something, but can’t quite put it all together.
Voices like EFF, OpenRightsGroup, FSC, etc, need to be heard and made understandable by normal people, news and government.
This is why I don’t want Lemmy to become huge. Keep the idiots out.
Seriously, sometimes I wish we could get all the shitty execs and politicians alone in a room with all of us and just insult them for their shitty behavior, like the Chevy Chase comedy central roast.
I mean who wouldn’t want to see the expression on the head of Nestle’s face when he’s told his mother should have swallowed?
They know full well we hate them, that wouldn’t help, and would vent the anger we need to make an actual sensible change.
Aye, I be ownin’ it all, mateys!
Aye aye, only the finest and cleanest wares on my drives
The top Linux isos
I’ve got a digital watch
My digital watch, a Pebble, stopped working. The company who maintained it got bought by Garmin. Garmin broke my digital watch 🙃.
Mine is a Casio I’ve had for about 30 years, I’m pretty sure it’s mine by now
Nope, once you die, it belongs to someone else.
Does gadgetbridge not work?
I had trouble with some watchfaces. Couldn’t get my favs working consistently.
The only problem with your story is that Garmin didn’t buy any Pebble assets.
It was Fitbit.
Thanks for the correction.
Like Doctorow said, if you cant own it you can’t steal it.
No.
Possession is 9/10ths of the law, so I 90% own a whole lot of stuff I pirated while I don’t own most things Ive paid money for… Great system guys
We still own all our CDs, DVDs and Blu-rays, so them as long as the players still exist.
Only if the DRM is broken. DRM can make the player stop working sooner. It’s literally about making the media less playable.
No, and once I became aware of the fact realized that I was kinda screwed when it came to video games.
Every single video game I have purchased is on Steam, and considering its DRM and licence business model, I had multiple conversations with my friends who also had the same worry and wondered what would happen if Steam shut down one day. Valve did state that they’ll remove the DRM if the platform shut down, but there’s no way of knowing the future as million things can happen and for all we know, they might change their minds or not be in a position to remove the DRM once the time came.
Removed by mod
TBH, the default steam DRM is trivial to remove yourself with steam emulators and stuff, and many indie games dont even use it. The real problem is 3rd party DRM like Denuvo, which Valve probably can’t remove even if they wanted to.
I actually wonder if the files you download off Bandcamp have DRM on them or not.
They do not have DRMs.
Good to know
I am curious why you think that. I download Bandcamp files and place it on a home server, and I have never had any problems. It is conceivable that they have a tracker or some bull shit connected to it, but more than a little unlikely.
Bandcamp files play fine on non bandcamp-approved playing devices. This is a big win on my book.
I guess that answers my question. Thanks, mate.
It all depends on the licence. Even if you buy something on physical media you may not technically own it. If something has a FOSS licence MIT, BSD, GPL, etc Then yes you do own your copy and no one can change that.
I may only have a license to view the contents of a dvd, but at least I’ll always be able to view it as long as it’s in my possession and I have a dvd player.
Content you can only access remotely via someone else systems (or requiring remote authorization via there systems) can be taken away at anytime regardless of the terms of your license, even supposedly “indefinite/permanent/lifetime” licences.
Both of these items use the same term ‘purchase’. This term used to refer to the first situation only, but now it covers both.
