• BilSabab@lemmy.world
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    It is not Peyton’s problem that they have an exploit. Should’ve thought about it upon planning the event.

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      Office workers are off so service industry jobs are fully staffed. I’ve never seen a gas station closed for labor day.

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        let alone Christmas, gas stations only close in the event of large scale riots in my experience. I’ve been forced to work overnight in a blizzard that dropped three feet of snow. I had one customer all night, he was a plow driver coming in for a few energy drinks.

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          And you are a hero to that plow driver. And others like you are heroes to the people that also had to be out on terrible weather days and holidays.

          I assume a gas station could run without anyone present, leaving the convenience store part closed, but having someone on-hand to hit an e-stop if needed is pretty important.

          My goal is not to devalue your work, but rather to support it. “Essential workers” are called that for a reason. We should work to ensure that they are paid their worth. Just because it’s not necessarily a “skilled” job doesn’t mean it’s not important. The bro running the local hedge fund is providing way less actual value than anyone in a service job.

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    Incidentally, the soda (gas-injected water plus syrup) is so cheap this [a real boy really named Peyton coming in and filling his bin for the fill-your-own-cup-special] would be better indulged and tolerated as a photo op and free advertising. When you get a fast food cup and free refills, the cup is literally more expensive than the soda + ice that goes into it. It’s nearly 100% profit.

    ETA The same is true for people who eat too much at AYKE buffets. Take a picture of the dude, and have him sign the guest book and put him up on the wall of eating champions. The loss from one over-eating dude is going to be made up by the draw that yes, we mean all you can eat, and all he ate. Managers who throw big eaters out are just short-sighted and failing to do the math.

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      Incidentally, the soda (gas-injected water plus syrup) is so cheap this [a real boy really named Peyton coming in and filling his bin for the fill-your-own-cup-special] would be better indulged and tolerated as a photo op and free advertising

      What do you think this is? Edit: oh this is from a satirical account so by default not real, got it.

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      A 5 gallon bag o syrup costs around 50 - $100 depending on volume discounts and what part of the US. At a 5 to 1 ratio, that’s 30 gallons per bag. Assuming each cup is 12oz (they do put in a lot of ice usually) that’s 320 servings (assuming no spillage).

      So it costs McDonalds or similar 15 - 30 cents per soda they sell in soda costs, and 11 cents for the cup lid straw combo. So assuming it’s still a dollar, that’s between 74 to 59% profit based on volume discount the specific place has with coca cola. So not really 100% profit, but still high. And no the cup doesn’t cost more, if that were ever true it was for a brief moment in history.

      As a side note fucking Googles LLM make this type of research hard by spitting fake info at you. It keeps quoting 16 cent cost for the entire soda, but the syrup alone costs at least 15 cents.

      • 1/5 syrup is a lot of syrup, and doesn’t track with Italian-style sodas.

        I have heard that brand name syrups are often charged extra for a patent fee or something, much like the studios overcharging movie theaters since the 90s / aughts, forcing them to run entirely on concessions.

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        As a side note fucking Googles LLM make this type of research hard by spitting fake info at you.

        The web in general is fucked, since most sites less than 3 years old are now entirely written by AI. :(

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      I work in a store with one of these machines and i’ve seen the invoices. This is absolutely true. There is no way for the business to lose money on these things.

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      No. The loss from ridiculous misuse insofar as food (not soda) is small but meaningful and basically worth nothing because typically “exposure” isn’t worth anything whatsoever. Worse it might convince some other assholes with the same strategy to specifically target your joint magnifying their loss.

      It’s funny that you who have run nothing know better than every company.

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        I’ve run nothing, but a friend of mine was a Pizza Inn manager and talked a bit about it, albeit in the late 80s / early 90s.

        But the attitudes I’ve seen from managers suggests at an anecdotal level they don’t know that much and don’t care. They penny pinch in the wrong places, often developing the reputation that their own establishment has mean, miserly policies. Maybe, if their margins are that low, like it’s Walmart, this is necessary.

        Still, there’s a lot of focus by companies on loss control than there is by making their places welcome enough to bother shopping there; this figures into the recent Walgreens franchise culling in San Francisco.

        The focus of my own studies (as a game dev) had been about crunching in AAA game development, which is still done even though it has the opposite effect as intended (specifically, hurrying up production to meet a deadline. Crunching starkly slows development). Managers of billion-dollar projects are willing to be stupid in the face of data-driven policy; the cruelty is sometimes the point. Among the convenience store managers I’ve encountered, they don’t look at or care about the data.

        Believe what you need to believe, though.

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    Since nobody has mentioned it yet, this is from Celina 52, which is a fictional truck stop social media account that uses AI generated images like this one to satirize rural American culture. Peyton doesn’t exist.

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      I am going to stake my reputation on this, that image is not AI generated. AI images struggle to get wording and spelling right. Also the colors are mutated like the photo was taken in shitty florescent lighting, AI images tend to be cleaner.

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        You know, it’s actually a lot more complicated than I thought originally. It is a satire account, and it isn’t a “real” place, but apparently a lot of the photos originate from a truck stop in Tennessee. There’s a whole internet saga around finding the actual location. Most of the photos they post are digitally manipulated in some way, including alleged AI face superimposition, but they play the satire so straight that it’s impossible to know to what extent. You may be right that it’s not whole-cloth AI generated, but it also isn’t a photo of a kid with a tub full of orange soda.

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            …Peyton is just a common name in Tennessee. Maybe Peyton Manning helped that trend with his success as a quarterback, but there are a lot of kids with that name in Tennessee.

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            Like the dispenser to the left of the soda is dispenser for beer, sure looks like a Busch logo

      • AI art has come a long way. You can make your AI look like shitty florescent lighting, or a fading photograph. Also AI folk normally have five fingers on each hand in a normal position thanks to LORAs. LORAs also fix wording when you specify what you want a caption to say.

        It’ll mess up logos unless you specify a particular brand.

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        I promise it’s not real, the left side is a buschlight beer dispenser on the last slot of that soda fountain on the left side in the real image from their FB page

        AI or Photoshop? Idk. Maybe a combination

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          I mean, there’s just no way it’s entirely AI, at least. That Coca-Cola logo on the machine, the soda labels on the Coke machine… the odds that AI would get all that right are so low. I’m not speaking to any other aspect, because I didn’t spend a lot of time studying the whole image.

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        It’s a combination of Photoshop and AI generated content. The truck stop is a real place with a different name located next door to a Bucee’s. Most of their posts are built off photos and videos taken in the actual store which builds consistency and makes it feel authentic.

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      All you wankers blabbering about without even hinting about the important issue.
      So did a small boy get his orange soda or nah?
      Have you no soul people?

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    I mean, I appreciate the gumption but, honestly? This mentality is probably why Americans can’t have decent public services.

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      Things in favor of Peyton here:

      • Corporations in general
      • There is no rule against it
      • 7-11 has a pretty regular event where “fill a silly cup, feel free to be absurd” is a thing, so there is precedent
      • That amount of soda is still probably profitable for the company, fountain soda is incredibly cheap
      • This isn’t regular consumption and clearly not a regular occurrence, if beverages were regularly freely available, it wouldn’t be exciting to do this and this type of behavior would go away – you have to hoard service when public service is an artificially limited quantity.
      • This didn’t deprive any other customer of soda – the only downside here is a corporation losing a few cents of profit.

      Things against Peyton:

      • Hoarding is a bad mentality to be in (agreed with you here)
      • It will take days to drink that much soda, and it will be flat and nasty

      When poor people get a windfall of money, they tend to spend it all. It’s why lottery winners tend to wind up broke. Because historically, money is a “use it or lose it” for those people. If you’ve been trained your whole life to adapt to things, it can be hard to do the right thing when those things no longer hold true.

      Americans cant have decent public services because they abuse them… results in Americans desperate for public services… which results in Americans taking extra advantage of any public service that is available… which results in a mindset that Americans abuse public services… which results in less funding… Its a vicious cycle.

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        Yeah we Americans are a condemnable lot but I don’t think “kid exploits loophole to buy comical amount of soda” is really an example of that, he’s just a kid doing a bit. If this was a public service the solution would be analogous to saying “you have to be able to hold the container in one hand” or something. There’s always going to be people pushing the rules but they’re usually the exception not the rule.

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          If this were an actual public service, the solution would be to make sure people’s needs were met so they didn’t feel obligated to take comical amounts of soda.

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        Some people prefer flat soda, my son among them. I still feel like he’s just being contrarian/messing with me, but he still insists he’s sincere.

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          Your son is a smart son. Interestingly, myself and several other family members prefer flat sodas. It’s too bad yours doesn’t seem to be inherited.

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      Yeah I feel we have too adversarial of a mindset. Or maybe “too independent” like so independent that we don’t even consider how we are all connected and only have a society because we work together.

      It leads to people saying really silly phrases like “self made millionaire” which ignores all the people that gave that person money.

      Like money is inherently social. You can’t do anything with it on your own.

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      the mindset of Americans, as a fellow American, is “fuck you, got mine”.

      until we unlearn this behavior, we will continue to cannibalize each other. not sure how many generations thats going to take, but I hope it happens in my lifetime

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      This mentality is probably why Americans can’t have decent public services.

      What mentality? You mean falling for obviously fake bullshit that only idiots would believe? Yea, I’d agree that’s the root of many of society’s problems…

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        I am blown away every day by what people around here will believe if it fits their worldview.

        “LOL! Conservatives so dumb they’ll believe anything!”

        Here, watch me catch mad upvotes. They can’t help it, it’s a Pavlovian thing.

        Billionaires, landlords, AI, Capitalism BAD!