• RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz
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    1 day ago

    It makes you less rational and quicker to instinctively do shit before your rational brain catches you. Those instinctive things aren’t some hidden desires, it can be some random dumbass shit. Hell, people have “call of the void” telling them to do suicidal shit

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      23 hours ago

      I think it’s both. It lowers your inhibitions and lets you do things that you wouldn’t otherwise do: dance on a table, go home with a stranger, call up an ex, etc. But, it also breaks the inhibitions on the various random thoughts people have that aren’t “hidden desires” but are just intrusive thoughts.

      For example, “I didn’t want to sleep in a wheelbarrow”, sure. But, you did want to lie down. And, the wheelbarrow was right there. Once you were in the wheelbarrow, you didn’t want to sleep there all night, but you did want to relax for a bit.

      So, it’s not like “I want this outcome”. It’s more like there were a lot of small steps between here and there, and a rational brain would have put a stop to things along the way, but a drunk brain doesn’t second guess a lot of those small decisions which result in one big outcome like sleeping in a wheelbarrow.

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      Sounds like cope, or maybe we’re just talking about different kinds of behavior. I’ve seen plenty of drunk people do stupid or horrifying things that weren’t instinctive; they were just acting out stuff they already wanted to do sober.

      I’ve done dumb things while drunk too, like throwing up off a balcony. Not something I’d ever plan sober, but it happened before my rational brain caught up. That’s probably closer to what you mean: impulsive stuff that slips out before logic intervenes.

      But that’s not the same as people suddenly becoming violent or hypersexual when they drink, every time they drink. That’s inhibition loss revealing what’s already under the surface. The booze didn’t create it; it just took away the filter. Those absolutely are hidden desires.

      Alcohol doesn’t make you do something alien to you. It makes you less able to stop yourself from doing what you’re already inclined to do, whether that’s stupid, aggressive, or emotional.

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        8 hours ago

        People seem to disagree with the way this was said, but I do agree with the premise that I’ve always wanted to do everything I’ve ever done while drunk. I have never once woke up after a night of drinking and felt like my actions weren’t my own desires. If I had, I would never have put another drop of alcohol anywhere near my lips ever again, as that would be severely irresponsible. It’ll lower my inhibitions, decouple me from social anxieties a bit, but that just gives me more spoons to be outwardly social or energetic. I can obviously only speak of my own personal experiences, so I will not make claims about how others handle alcohol, but if I personally felt I wasn’t able to make my own choices while under it’s influence, it’s not a substance I’d ever come back to.

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          “People” You know it’s funny, it shot up to around ten upvotes, then suddenly it was -2 and now it’s where it’s at, so I think one person with a few alts just took what I said personally. And you know how it is, people see the down votes before they read the comment and form an opinion that shapes how they read the comment, if they read it at all. I don’t mind, it doesn’t matter, and we’re all just here to shoot the shit anyway. I’m well aware of how amazing I am at word choice and getting my point across (/s), and I know people tend to get defensive when you insinuate the bad thing they did when they were drunk was more about them than the alcohol. It’s a point I stand by, though. I used to drink a lot, and I’m not proud of all of my actions from that time period, but I do own them. And I know the terrible things that my supposed friend did nearly every time we drank was just him showing me how he truly feels and wants to act, and I will absolutely crucify myself on this hill before I let people like that blame the alcohol rather than self-reflect. But I’m glad to know there are others out there like you who know that no one and nothing is responsible for their actions but themselves. Personal responsibility seems to be fading out in our society.

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        14 hours ago

        I’d say if it is something you wouldn’t do sober, then doing it while highly intoxicated can be said to be something alien to you, not something you would’ve done normally. But I agree with what @merc@merc@sh.itjust.works said above so we too might agree but just think about it differently.