Proton, in my opinion, make the best VPN for people who need both mobile device support and port forwarding so they can be a good citizen with all those linux ISOs they torrent. I don’t use their desktop client (I prefer to rawdog OpenVPN and Wireguard) but people like those.
Proton’s email is dogshit. Don’t get me wrong, it is awesome for making burners that many websites don’t insta-block (although that is shifting). But you don’t own your data unless you regularly run their nonsense client to tunnel into their servers. So if Proton goes shit tomorrow? All your emails are gone. Not a HUGE issue if you regularly fetch those but… yeah.
I’ve been backburnering it for other reasons but folk like (Not That) Will Smith and many others have been very big supporters of Fastmail and, looking at it, it seems pretty nice. And it fits my use case of using an email address at a domain I own so that I can just move between services depending on pricing and how evil corporations are in a given month.
Just to elaborate a bit. Migrating from JohnSmith@gmail to JohnSmith@hotmail to JohnSmith_75151515@proton is a massive undertaking.
Migrating from John@SmithDotOrg hosted by Foo to John@SmithDotOrg hosted by Bar is potentially under an hour depending on how you manage that domain and so forth.
No one gives a single flying fuck about owning their email generally. The number of people who actually care about that aspect basically can be counted on one hand compared to the total number of even technical people who understand what that means.
But you don’t own your data unless you regularly run their nonsense client to tunnel into their servers. So if Proton goes shit tomorrow? All your emails are gone. Not a HUGE issue if you regularly fetch those but… yeah.
Tbf most people don’t download offline copies, they just let all their email live on their provider’s servers and never think twice.
Personally, I’ve used either Outlook or Gmail since 2000 and haven’t ever had an issue getting access to my emails.
looking to ditch hotmail after 25 years, noticed proton also offers vpn, may as well get that, i live in a red state
Proton, in my opinion, make the best VPN for people who need both mobile device support and port forwarding so they can be a good citizen with all those linux ISOs they torrent. I don’t use their desktop client (I prefer to rawdog OpenVPN and Wireguard) but people like those.
Proton’s email is dogshit. Don’t get me wrong, it is awesome for making burners that many websites don’t insta-block (although that is shifting). But you don’t own your data unless you regularly run their nonsense client to tunnel into their servers. So if Proton goes shit tomorrow? All your emails are gone. Not a HUGE issue if you regularly fetch those but… yeah.
I’ve been backburnering it for other reasons but folk like (Not That) Will Smith and many others have been very big supporters of Fastmail and, looking at it, it seems pretty nice. And it fits my use case of using an email address at a domain I own so that I can just move between services depending on pricing and how evil corporations are in a given month.
Just to elaborate a bit. Migrating from JohnSmith@gmail to JohnSmith@hotmail to JohnSmith_75151515@proton is a massive undertaking.
Migrating from John@SmithDotOrg hosted by Foo to John@SmithDotOrg hosted by Bar is potentially under an hour depending on how you manage that domain and so forth.
No one gives a single flying fuck about owning their email generally. The number of people who actually care about that aspect basically can be counted on one hand compared to the total number of even technical people who understand what that means.
Tbf most people don’t download offline copies, they just let all their email live on their provider’s servers and never think twice.
Personally, I’ve used either Outlook or Gmail since 2000 and haven’t ever had an issue getting access to my emails.
Which, again, is an issue if you need to get your McCauley on and get out the door in 5 minutes flat