Yeah, just hating on iPhones because they’re iPhones is stupid. I use GrapheneOS, and their official statement is “Graphene is your best option for security, but if you don’t want to fiddle with things and be in an open source ecosystem, your #2 best choice is an iPhone”
I don’t have a Pixel. GrapheneOS now costs me hundreds of dollars. I’d like to be able to flash a custom ROM, but I literally don’t have the option without buying into it. I’m sure the Pixel is fine, but so is my current phone that also already cost me hundreds of dollars. This is a ridiculous problem to have.
That’s not what makes it ridiculous to me. I think it’s ridiculous that Google locking down android now costs me hundreds of dollars to deal with for no real benefit to myself. No shade being thrown towards Pixel or GrapheneOS. The circumstances are the problem. Google is the problem…which does place quite a bit of irony on the solution being a Google Pixel.
Oh yeah, totally agreed on all points. Google is the bad guy here, but at the end of the day that doesn’t change the fact that a degoogled google device is actually the best current option. I wish more folks could handle that nuance.
Nothing wrong with not wanting to or not being able to make an expensive new hardware purchase to work around some bullshit like Google is pulling though, of course.
Just use the device mobile security researchers use.
You’re gonna hate it when you discover which one it is.
Yeah, just hating on iPhones because they’re iPhones is stupid. I use GrapheneOS, and their official statement is “Graphene is your best option for security, but if you don’t want to fiddle with things and be in an open source ecosystem, your #2 best choice is an iPhone”
I’d love to use graphene if it didn’t require me to buy a Pixel
I genuinely don’t understand this mindset. they work fine and the security seems unmatched.
I specifically don’t want to give Google (Alphabet inc) a single cent I don’t have to.
So, idealism over pragmatism. I disagree but I respect it.
In any case, you could always buy one secondhand.
It’s not hard to understand for me.
I don’t have a Pixel. GrapheneOS now costs me hundreds of dollars. I’d like to be able to flash a custom ROM, but I literally don’t have the option without buying into it. I’m sure the Pixel is fine, but so is my current phone that also already cost me hundreds of dollars. This is a ridiculous problem to have.
I don’t think it’s all that ridiculous that you can’t install a security focused OS on a device that lacks the security required by the OS.
That’s not what makes it ridiculous to me. I think it’s ridiculous that Google locking down android now costs me hundreds of dollars to deal with for no real benefit to myself. No shade being thrown towards Pixel or GrapheneOS. The circumstances are the problem. Google is the problem…which does place quite a bit of irony on the solution being a Google Pixel.
Oh yeah, totally agreed on all points. Google is the bad guy here, but at the end of the day that doesn’t change the fact that a degoogled google device is actually the best current option. I wish more folks could handle that nuance.
Nothing wrong with not wanting to or not being able to make an expensive new hardware purchase to work around some bullshit like Google is pulling though, of course.
Excuse me Sir/Ma’am is it socially acceptable to dislike walled gardens and horrendous UI design at the price of more than a new laptop computer
I’ll never use an android device again knowing what I know about them.
I begrudgingly use an iPhone, knowing what I know about them.
Baseband will always be against you, no matter what choice you make.
Just use the device pedophiles use.
Survivorship bias: don’t use the phone they get caught on.