Per capita is not relevant to climate change, but it is relevant to understand the situation lifestyles motivation and economic development of people. I think there has to be a concept of a fair share.
‘Keep them foreigners poor because we fucked up the planet’ is not going to convince many people - outside of those who drink the greenwash koolaid and don’t see that we continue to emit way more than our fair share. Granted the UK is in about the worst position here, because of history that meant countries like India effectively were forced to pay the UK to fuck it up so its a double fuck-you if i were to say that.
India just won’t stay poor anyway and no one is going to stop western and middle eastern oil companies wanting more cars in ‘emerging markets’ .
I’m not saying they should replicate UK as it was in 1980. But if we’re so clean now, having achieved what i call ’ far too little, far too late’ why can’t developing countries catch up their lifestyles to ours today - the answer is we’re not clean and they shouldn’t - but they probably will and I can’t blame them for it.
China must laugh at shitholes like the UK, can’t build Nukes (hinkley point C is what 10-12 years and counting behind schedule?) , can’t build high speed rail, can’t invest in decent public transportation, doesn’t build hydro because of fucking poets and fucking daffodils and yokels fucking sheep, and tries at every turn to follow US’s stupendously inefficient and self indulgent ‘sprawl’ model or housing instead of densifying population efficiently.
You’re right that the UK isn’t in tip top shape, I would have loved to have visited the UK 20 years ago and I sit here today amazed that Nigel Farage, the guy who lead England up shit creek without a paddle ON PURPOSE is leading the polls… that’s pretty dire.
But you do have something you can be proud of, your emissions have dropped tremendously:
While India
and China
Have blown the UK away, if more countries were like the UK we’d be talking about how the war on climate change was won with flying colours.
Per capita is not relevant to climate change, but it is relevant to understand the situation lifestyles motivation and economic development of people. I think there has to be a concept of a fair share.
‘Keep them foreigners poor because we fucked up the planet’ is not going to convince many people - outside of those who drink the greenwash koolaid and don’t see that we continue to emit way more than our fair share. Granted the UK is in about the worst position here, because of history that meant countries like India effectively were forced to pay the UK to fuck it up so its a double fuck-you if i were to say that.
India just won’t stay poor anyway and no one is going to stop western and middle eastern oil companies wanting more cars in ‘emerging markets’ .
I’m not saying they should replicate UK as it was in 1980. But if we’re so clean now, having achieved what i call ’ far too little, far too late’ why can’t developing countries catch up their lifestyles to ours today - the answer is we’re not clean and they shouldn’t - but they probably will and I can’t blame them for it.
China must laugh at shitholes like the UK, can’t build Nukes (hinkley point C is what 10-12 years and counting behind schedule?) , can’t build high speed rail, can’t invest in decent public transportation, doesn’t build hydro because of fucking poets and fucking daffodils and yokels fucking sheep, and tries at every turn to follow US’s stupendously inefficient and self indulgent ‘sprawl’ model or housing instead of densifying population efficiently.
You’re right that the UK isn’t in tip top shape, I would have loved to have visited the UK 20 years ago and I sit here today amazed that Nigel Farage, the guy who lead England up shit creek without a paddle ON PURPOSE is leading the polls… that’s pretty dire.
But you do have something you can be proud of, your emissions have dropped tremendously:
While India
and China
Have blown the UK away, if more countries were like the UK we’d be talking about how the war on climate change was won with flying colours.