• REDACTED@infosec.pub
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    Back when gaza war started, someone in the comments referred to Jews as a race. I felt like correcting them, literally copy-pasted a line from wikipedia that says they’re ethnoreligious group, not a race. I was banned permamently for hate speech/bigotry.

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      How dare you bring universally accepted facts to a modern discussion. That’s fucking antisemitic.

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      There is only one human race —Homosapiensapiens.

      Jewish is both an ethnicity (what people think of as race) and a religion.

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      race is a social construct, I don’t think wikipedia would have a definitive list of races

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        I’m not sure I’m following your argument. Almost everything is a social construct to humans, that does not make it un-true. I feel like this is one of those anarchistic things people say just to appear smart, while in reality it’s meaningless.

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          When you talk about they stock market you know it is an invention by humans. Same with things like nationality, or ideologies etc.

          Race has this veil of credibility. People think it is an actually scientific term rooted in biology. People think you can look at someones DNA and see if they are black/white/Asian. You can not! It is not a scientific term. There is no biological way to separate people into races. It is a social construct that acts like it is not.

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          What race someone is literally depends on what people think. There’s no scientific way to establish the race of someone. A popular example is that Italians and Irish were not considered white.

          Idk how you can’t follow my argument, it’s clearly about the fact that it’s not definitive whether Jews are a race or not. It is definitive that they are an ethnic group because you can establish that via culture and heritage and language and obviously, religion.

          I think Indians and Taiwanese look very different and don’t have a similar origin, but people would say they’re both “Asians” by race.

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          Because I would consider jews a ethnic group since you can be Jewish and have no religious ties and ethnoreligious implies religious ties. So really you need to say secular jews or religious jews. Wikipedia obviously just groups it all together

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      Ah yes you just reminded me of the time I was banned from Reddit too for copy-pasting a fact from Wikipedia 🤦🏼‍♀️

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      The descriptor race in English tends to mean people of a certain ethnicity. I.e. you wrong. Also race theory sucks and is Nazi ideology.

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        you wrong. Also race theory sucks and is Nazi ideology

        Unhinged. It’s not a nazi ideology, it’s biology. We can tell races apart from looking at the bones, race is not an imaginary thing.

        EDIT: I do feel like pointing out that what you do with this information can be classified as racism, but saying races exist is not a nazi ideology.

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            I think, ey mixed race and species, and since there’s only one surviving species of Homo, i.e. Homo sapiens, distinguishing species by bones is maybe ok? Then again, it’s not a race, and biologic classification is somewhat arbitrary anyway