• Doomsider@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    It is okay, a lot of people cannot accept the truth that the US has been a fascist nation for a long time. Depending on how you interpret the revolutionary war it was always a proto-fascist nation.

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      3 days ago

      According to Umberto Eco’s requirements, the US was Ur-Fascist for quite some time. I tend to agree with that.

      Now, however, we’re full on fascist for sure. Also, Holocaust aside, Hitler and his allies were obviously in the wrong. Like you can’t be OK with them occupying half of Europe.

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      3 days ago

      Mm. Well, gonna disagree, but that’s okay! We agree the fascism openly being practiced today is abhorrent and must be obliterated.

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        3 days ago

        You can of course disagree. But I would like to ask your opinion of the US toppling countless democracies to install fascist dictatorships during the Cold War. This is just one of many examples that highlight all is not what it seems.

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          3 days ago

          “Countless” is a bit of a stretch, and really isn’t until the 1900s but yes in general that’s some imperialistic bullshit. Things that were kept from everyone for decades because they wouldn’t have been able to do it if it was out in the open. (Now is a very different time that has taken them decades and trillions of dollars to manufacture.) A closer look at any of those operations will reveal the usual suspects of militarism, racism, and enormous oceans of money. Those persons did not make up the whole of the country, then or now.

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            3 days ago

            Fair enough and I agree that not all people in the US are wealthy militaristic authoritarian racists (aka fascists). Just those in charge I suppose.

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              2 days ago

              Yeah that’s how discussion works.

              Snarky asshole retorts are in the next thread down.