Hey, uh… honest question, no offense. I often see people claiming things about Trump, or saying things like they’re exposing a bad person. Why?
Just… it seems like I see it all the time, and I’m not sure I see it lead to anything. I mean, the Epstein thing is widely mentioned, among plenty of other things. Maybe specifics can differ and be less known case to case, but general claims like rape and sexism and whatnot seem quite common. Yet none of this seems to have lead anywhere.
Not saying he’s not a bad person or that these claims aren’t real. And you need not spare him. Just curious.
For context, I am not and have never been in the US
I see it like this, just because, like you’ve pointed out, that it leads to nowhere and that he has never suffered any real consequences for his many crimes, proven or claimed. That that doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be talked about.
Yes, you are correct, at the moment it is leading nowhere and my one opinion/voice does almost nothing in bringing him closer to those consequences.
However, that is correct for most things. A work force strike is useless if only one person does the strike, but if that one voice is heard by another and another and then they join in everything can become bigger and bigger.
The more articles about him not releasing the unredacted Epstein list the better. The more people who see the accusations from the 13 year old girl the better (btw there are 20-30 other accusations of sexual assault and rape by him. Even his ex-wife took him to court for it)
This is what I’m trying to do here, making it more visible for others to see. Lucky 10000
And hoping that if even just a few that see it will then look more in to it and realise that he’s got all these convictions and accusations because of what type of person he is.
I honestly don’t expect him to see any consequences while he is alive, but I do think that history will not treat him well.
I put up the links to his convictions and accusations so others can see them. They may lead nowhere for now, but I’m doing my part.
Also, if you take away the Epstein stuff, the rape conviction of E Jean Carroll, the many sex accusations and just judge him on his business tactics etc, racial beliefs etc, how he talks about his daughter and so on then he still is a very disgusting person.
A quick search by you to look up about his fines for stealing from his charity will show this.
A quick search by you about how he made fun of a disabled journalist will show this.
A quick search about his proven lies per day during his last term as president will show this (over 30,000 proven lies in 4 years btw, or about 4 lies a day. It’s easy to find this info).
A quick search by you about his racist policies in new York will show this.
A quick search by you about his ties to russian money will show this. These aren’t claims either, they are facts. Christ, the russian money thing comes straight from his own son!! You may not want to say he’s a bad person or not, but he is a bad person. The end, full stop, and it deserves to be known by everyone.
(I am also not american. I have never been there, and no longer want to go there. If I see a bad person being bad I do do something about it physically or otherwise. I have never, and will never, look the opposite way and ignore it. Yes, it’s got me in to unfortunate circumstances but I am happy to say I can easily sleep at night with a clear conscience.)
Thanks for the explanation. I know he’s no good. In many ways. Just seemed to me like stating the obvious to people who already know it in a definitely non-mainstream platform with a smaller reach (when more mainstream stuff doesn’t even have any effect).
I command you for your efforts! I could never. I’d probably go insane doing so (especially for a country I’m not related to at all). Just hearing so much about the US and politics (especially this “raw” left-right-communism-socialism-marxism-tankie-whatever Lemmy often goes on about) has me feeling I should touch more grass, disconnect more (especially from Lemmy). Wouldn’t be my first time taking a break from this (virtual) place.
South Park still kicks ass, though. That I’m willing to take
It’s the opposite for me. I’ve tried to ignore things but If I don’t call him out I begin to feel like I’ve given up and he’s ‘getting away with it all’.
One day it’s all going to come out. There’s no way it can stay hidden, he’s made way too many enemies. And when it does I’ll feel like I’ve done a little bit to help.
Wait, so the adjudged rapist prisoner P01135809 is in the unredacted Epstein list? No way, I’m shocked! Anyways don’t read this article about him raping and beating a 13 year old girl
Hey, uh… honest question, no offense. I often see people claiming things about Trump, or saying things like they’re exposing a bad person. Why?
Just… it seems like I see it all the time, and I’m not sure I see it lead to anything. I mean, the Epstein thing is widely mentioned, among plenty of other things. Maybe specifics can differ and be less known case to case, but general claims like rape and sexism and whatnot seem quite common. Yet none of this seems to have lead anywhere.
Not saying he’s not a bad person or that these claims aren’t real. And you need not spare him. Just curious.
For context, I am not and have never been in the US
I see it like this, just because, like you’ve pointed out, that it leads to nowhere and that he has never suffered any real consequences for his many crimes, proven or claimed. That that doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be talked about.
Yes, you are correct, at the moment it is leading nowhere and my one opinion/voice does almost nothing in bringing him closer to those consequences.
However, that is correct for most things. A work force strike is useless if only one person does the strike, but if that one voice is heard by another and another and then they join in everything can become bigger and bigger.
The more articles about him not releasing the unredacted Epstein list the better. The more people who see the accusations from the 13 year old girl the better (btw there are 20-30 other accusations of sexual assault and rape by him. Even his ex-wife took him to court for it)
This is what I’m trying to do here, making it more visible for others to see.
Lucky 10000
And hoping that if even just a few that see it will then look more in to it and realise that he’s got all these convictions and accusations because of what type of person he is.
I honestly don’t expect him to see any consequences while he is alive, but I do think that history will not treat him well.
I put up the links to his convictions and accusations so others can see them. They may lead nowhere for now, but I’m doing my part.
Also, if you take away the Epstein stuff, the rape conviction of E Jean Carroll, the many sex accusations and just judge him on his business tactics etc, racial beliefs etc, how he talks about his daughter and so on then he still is a very disgusting person.
A quick search by you to look up about his fines for stealing from his charity will show this.
A quick search by you about how he made fun of a disabled journalist will show this.
A quick search about his proven lies per day during his last term as president will show this (over 30,000 proven lies in 4 years btw, or about 4 lies a day. It’s easy to find this info).
A quick search by you about his racist policies in new York will show this.
A quick search by you about his ties to russian money will show this. These aren’t claims either, they are facts. Christ, the russian money thing comes straight from his own son!! You may not want to say he’s a bad person or not, but he is a bad person. The end, full stop, and it deserves to be known by everyone.
(I am also not american. I have never been there, and no longer want to go there. If I see a bad person being bad I do do something about it physically or otherwise. I have never, and will never, look the opposite way and ignore it. Yes, it’s got me in to unfortunate circumstances but I am happy to say I can easily sleep at night with a clear conscience.)
Thanks for the explanation. I know he’s no good. In many ways. Just seemed to me like stating the obvious to people who already know it in a definitely non-mainstream platform with a smaller reach (when more mainstream stuff doesn’t even have any effect).
I command you for your efforts! I could never. I’d probably go insane doing so (especially for a country I’m not related to at all). Just hearing so much about the US and politics (especially this “raw” left-right-communism-socialism-marxism-tankie-whatever Lemmy often goes on about) has me feeling I should touch more grass, disconnect more (especially from Lemmy). Wouldn’t be my first time taking a break from this (virtual) place.
South Park still kicks ass, though. That I’m willing to take
It’s the opposite for me. I’ve tried to ignore things but If I don’t call him out I begin to feel like I’ve given up and he’s ‘getting away with it all’.
One day it’s all going to come out. There’s no way it can stay hidden, he’s made way too many enemies. And when it does I’ll feel like I’ve done a little bit to help.