• TORFdot0@lemmy.world
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    18 days ago

    They aren’t even good plagiarism machines because it always say “avoiding illegal activity” whenever doing something like asking AI for how to convert video file formats or how to port a map from one PC game to another

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      18 days ago

      “people are using” them for this feels like misdirection. people are being pushed and sometimes forced into it, yea

      its sad that its being pushed that way. and curated in a way that makes it appear likable and as something that ‘gets you’. but im aware that it’s able to do that by plagiarising datasets of who knows how many messages and texts from real people. its imitating the behavior of a facade of a friend.

      people can surely argue that it’s semantics. and for sure it’s not the first time companies have made software to prey on people’s desires for connection. but at the end of the day its not what i meant by “cute robot friends”. what is currently here is an empty husk of predictive curated texts, made feasible to deploy as something people will use by decades of information and human connection destruction done by the same ones who are profiting

      • FartMaster69@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        18 days ago

        The problem is how undefinable cute robot friends is, since what fits the bill can very from person to person.

        Except Wall-E we can all agree on that one.

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          18 days ago

          thats true, i dont think it can come into view until we dismantle the system that can easily lead to people being taken advantage from the idea

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    19 days ago

    Eww wanting to uphold IP laws that benefit Disney et al and wanting to date 2d waifus?

    Can’t tell what’s worse.

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      19 days ago

      That’s one hell of a strawman you got there, Disney’s IP law lobbying wasn’t even brought up by the OP (and unless the op states their position on it, you shouldn’t generalize, as proponents for IP law reform can also despise AI; not mutually exclusive)

      As for the 2d waifus bit… I mean I wouldn’t, but I also am not a fan of chatbots wholly controlled by privately held companies with an interest in harvesting conversation data and manipulating users. (AKA the timeline we’re in).

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        Plagiarism is clearly in reference to IP. IP laws only exist to benefit the ruling class who have money to enforce them. This is evident from the countless cases of poor artists having their work stolen who cannot afford to fight it.

        You can run AI offline, it doesn’t make thinking a piece of code loves you any better.

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          So let me follow here… the poster calling out these LLMs for harvesting the work of all artists around the world en-masse in effect plagiarism (Because images and works generated are composed out of the internal dataset of the model) is unethical?

          The argument that you’re making is that all IP laws only exist to benefit the ruling classes, but it is the ignoring and disregard for these IP laws that is affecting all artists at all levels. Additionally, again, this post was calling out the data harvesting - the merits of IP laws as they currently stand was not mentioned.

        • TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zoneM
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          18 days ago

          You can morally plagiarize by violating an artist’s authorship of their work, regardless of what the law says. Institutions only capture the sin and fold it into part of the system, as even when protected by law, passing off another’s work as your own is a shitty thing.

          This is part of what’s wrong with IP law btw. According to law, large entertainment pieces like movies or games are not owned by any of the people who worked on them, but by those who donated capital to the project. Capital in, IP out.

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            What’s wrong with IP laws is that they lock away human culture from social use.

            There should be no limit on how you or I use a concept or an idea.

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              Yup. The only justification for this limit is capitalism, where people can obtain money by selling culture that goes beyond the material. If one didn’t need to produce value to survive or couldn’t earn a ton of wealth and power through the sale of culture, the limit would be obsolete.

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      Right. Because it’s all the artists and musicians that need to be replaced by AI. Fuck those people. They don’t deserve careers that can pay them a living wage, when we have synthesizers that can mimic their work.