We’re not the same. I like being able to go on a hike after taking 20 steps from my front door. I like hearing and seeing new birds regularly from my window. I like walking my dog without suffocating on the smog of the Manhattan streets.
Yeah, I think you’re being a bit hyperbolic, but I generally agree. I live about an hour from Manhattan (from the Holland, and then another hour to get through lololol), but I’m fifteen minutes from a reservoir that you can hike and boat, fifteen minutes from farms. My town is walkable, and I can walk to a hospital, grocery store, and library in, you guessed it, fifteen minutes. I’m an hour and change from the shore, about the same from the Poconos. I like having access to all the places, but I like to live in suburbia.
Yes some cities have a lot of perks, no the air quality isn’t as bad as the 60s, but pretending that taking the metro to the park is comparable to living in a forest is a little silly.
I’m amused too. People are offended that I prefer living in nature compared to a concrete jungle. That’s my preference. Live where you want folks. I’m not your mommy.
I’ve been to New York 4 times and to new England many many times. Funny how YOU can’t tell. Sometimes I like to say things that get people riled up. Like saying I like living in the city that I live in. I’m sorry I’m happy?
Not counting nice walks in prospect Park, I can get on the metro north train and go on a variety of hikes. It’s not 20 steps, but I also get all the other benefits of a city.
Also Manhattan isn’t known for smog, and there is a lot more to New York than Manhattan. Go look at like park slope or Astoria
I had to go into CVS to escape the air in Manhattan. Granted I’ve only been to Manhattan and Brooklyn, those are “city” parts, which this post refers to.
Air quality is getting worse everywhere thanks to wildfires and the like, but my point was that you don’t look at a city like NYC or Boston and see an orange haze from the smog and leaded gasoline emissions anymore.
The biggest issues with cities largely come down to cars, and having grown up in a summer beach hotspot, I can tell you that it can be just as bad out in the countryside. From noise pollution to emissions to traffic, you can largely thank cars for all of it. Road noise is actually one of the loudest things in a city. In places that have limited access to cars, you can immediately tell the difference.
I live about sixty miles east, and a mile above, Los Angeles. There’s a few spots on the road to my house that have a direct line of sight to the DTLA skyscrapers. Which I can actually see approximately 5 days a year, when specific wind conditions blow away all the smog.
The sky’s certainly less brown than it used to be, but it’s still brown.
That’s fair, but my understanding is that Los Angeles is an extreme case rather than a representative example of a typical American city, in part because of its unfortunate location in a valley and in part because of its sprawl. The fact that pollution is particularly hard to control there is why California is legally uniquely able to apply for its own set of automobile pollution regulations that are stricter than the rest of the country.
Los Angeles is an extreme case, but air pollution remains an urban problem. Emissions have been reduced, not eliminated.
It can still be a problem without being so visible as to limit your vision to less than a city block while the infirm non-hyperbolically suffocate to death.
We’re not the same. I like being able to go on a hike after taking 20 steps from my front door. I like hearing and seeing new birds regularly from my window. I like walking my dog without suffocating on the smog of the Manhattan streets.
Yeah, I think you’re being a bit hyperbolic, but I generally agree. I live about an hour from Manhattan (from the Holland, and then another hour to get through lololol), but I’m fifteen minutes from a reservoir that you can hike and boat, fifteen minutes from farms. My town is walkable, and I can walk to a hospital, grocery store, and library in, you guessed it, fifteen minutes. I’m an hour and change from the shore, about the same from the Poconos. I like having access to all the places, but I like to live in suburbia.
I’m a little amused by the down votes.
Yes some cities have a lot of perks, no the air quality isn’t as bad as the 60s, but pretending that taking the metro to the park is comparable to living in a forest is a little silly.
I’m amused too. People are offended that I prefer living in nature compared to a concrete jungle. That’s my preference. Live where you want folks. I’m not your mommy.
It’s funny how you can immediately tell when someone has never been to a big city
I’ve been to New York 4 times and to new England many many times. Funny how YOU can’t tell. Sometimes I like to say things that get people riled up. Like saying I like living in the city that I live in. I’m sorry I’m happy?
It’s funny how you can immediately tell when someone has never been outside of a big city
I’m from the country side and I very much like easy access to nature, but New York is a great city, especially with all the parks! The subway is bomb
Not counting nice walks in prospect Park, I can get on the metro north train and go on a variety of hikes. It’s not 20 steps, but I also get all the other benefits of a city.
Also Manhattan isn’t known for smog, and there is a lot more to New York than Manhattan. Go look at like park slope or Astoria
I had to go into CVS to escape the air in Manhattan. Granted I’ve only been to Manhattan and Brooklyn, those are “city” parts, which this post refers to.
That sounds psychosomatic but I’m not a professional. You take care of yourself.
Smog hasn’t been a problem in US cities since like the 60s…
Bad air quality still exists. Sorry I’m just not used to that quality of air. My bad?
Air quality is getting worse everywhere thanks to wildfires and the like, but my point was that you don’t look at a city like NYC or Boston and see an orange haze from the smog and leaded gasoline emissions anymore.
The biggest issues with cities largely come down to cars, and having grown up in a summer beach hotspot, I can tell you that it can be just as bad out in the countryside. From noise pollution to emissions to traffic, you can largely thank cars for all of it. Road noise is actually one of the loudest things in a city. In places that have limited access to cars, you can immediately tell the difference.
I live about sixty miles east, and a mile above, Los Angeles. There’s a few spots on the road to my house that have a direct line of sight to the DTLA skyscrapers. Which I can actually see approximately 5 days a year, when specific wind conditions blow away all the smog.
The sky’s certainly less brown than it used to be, but it’s still brown.
That’s fair, but my understanding is that Los Angeles is an extreme case rather than a representative example of a typical American city, in part because of its unfortunate location in a valley and in part because of its sprawl. The fact that pollution is particularly hard to control there is why California is legally uniquely able to apply for its own set of automobile pollution regulations that are stricter than the rest of the country.
Los Angeles is an extreme case, but air pollution remains an urban problem. Emissions have been reduced, not eliminated.
It can still be a problem without being so visible as to limit your vision to less than a city block while the infirm non-hyperbolically suffocate to death.
More like the '90s and the Montreal protocol, but yeah. It ain’t what it was. Now it’s wildfire smoke from Canada!