• Zwiebel@feddit.org
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    English needs a spelling reform badly. Like the whole point of writing is to put speech in writing. It makes no sense to have spelling be this detached from pronunciation.

    busy should be bizy for example

    • zarkanian@sh.itjust.works
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      20 hours ago

      This is a non-trivial task, and not simply because people will refuse to change their habits as they always do.

      You say that “busy” should be “bizy”, but are you sure about that? If we decide that Y should always have an “ee” sound, what do you do with words that start with Y? Or are we going to make it the rule that it always has a Y sound at the beginning of a word and an ee sound at the end? What about a word like “ripe”? That’s a different-sounding I than the one you have in “bizy”, so would that be “ryp”? In that case, you have to have 3 pronunciations for Y: one each for when it occurs at the beginning, ending, and inside a word.

    • Johanno@feddit.org
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      English has the problem of taking words literally from other languages including the pronunciation.

      Kindergarden - > German. The I gets pronounced differently.

      Tibia - > Latin. Fuck who knows how it is pronounced, just do what you want.

      Bureaucracy - > French. Yeah well the French hate people who want to learn their language, I guess. Nothing is written like it is pronounced

    • Digitalprimate@lemmy.world
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      23 hours ago

      Over time, that is what normally happens to language (even French, yeah looking at you Gauls).

      But, English and especially North American English is so predominate in the world, that may stop its otherwise natural development.

      /not a linguist just friends with some.

      • sucius@lemmy.world
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        English just needs a new orthography. Languages change in many ways, and phonetic drift is natural, it’s just that there hasn’t been a spelling reform to accommodate them, and at this point it’s gotten out of hand.

    • TheEmpireStrikesDak@thelemmy.club
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      Nah, we just need to go back to the old pronunciation.*

      https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oFX1nbD3dV0

      “Knight” used to be pronounced as it’s spelt. “Outside” used to said like oot-si-deh.

      *I am actually just kidding about that first part, but I do find it fascinating how much the spoken word has moved away from the originally phonetic spelling.