I don’t understand how, but somehow drivers seem to be the biggest whinny cunts on the planet. I feel like 80% of drivers rage from the smallest of inconveniences, if you inconvenience them for even a few seconds they’ll yell at you or flip you off. God forbid someone not notice the bonus right-turn green arrow. I feel like every time I see that everyone behind them wants to bring hell down upon them and curse their entire lineage for even existing. Even people I know personally that are typically very nice and aren’t prone to getting angry get irrationally mad at people they see on the street for such trivial things. It’s amazing.
I get especially annoyed at lights when people are slow to react. You know why? 9 times out of 10 theyre on their phones and not paying attention. Thats what makes me angry, not the delay.
I get that, but I also sometimes see the people behind them when walking completely loose their shit from that, visibly angry, leaning in, yelling and honking, which I feel is a bit overkill.
I don’t know where you learned to drive, but I clearly remember that lesson from driving school “honking is only to be used in case of immediate danger”. Which, here, is clearly not the case.
Cars really need a variety of horns. Like one that politely says “pardon me, do you happen to have any grey poupon?” and one that says “move or I’ll rip yer fucken eyeballs out!”
Trucks in SEA often do, they have this warbling “hey, I’m here”, and then a much more aggressive “get the fuck out of the way!”. People also modulate their bike horn to just give a little chirp so the person you’re passing knows you’re there, or two to say thank you, 3+ loud ones to say “get out of the way”, etc
One long hold — aggressive
A gentle “beep beep”, seems more friendly. At least, to me, and I hope that’s how it’s perceived.
I do the beep beep at red-turn green lights, but try to wait a little. It’s midly annoying if a driver doesn’t react quick enough but driving is a frustrating enough experience as it is. No need to add fuel to the fire, so to speak. I’ve been beeped at the moment the lights turned green, and at the time, my foot was already pressing the gas. I felt embarrassed… my car does not react that quickly!
Honestly the act of driving just makes people mad. They know they can go fast, so they are entitled to. Anything that gets in the way of them going fast induces anger.
Honestly the act of driving just makes people mad. They know they can go fast, so they are entitled to. Anything that gets in the way of them going fast induces anger.
Am driver, love traffic. Was on the motorway today and it was going at carwash speeds for a good 10 minutes. Had lots of fun, heard and saw some trains. Love driving
… appears to be just as bad, and they often don’t even keep to biking roads (eg. biking through “no-biking” pedestrian streets and getting angry at the pedestrians being all over the place, or biking over the pedestrian crossings, etc.).
I just feel fear cycling. Like when a 53’ long semi passes a foot away from me. Ironically most of my near-miss brushes with death have involved school buses - it’s ironic because I’m a school bus driver. One time I even got smacked in the leg by a school bus’ crossing arm.
It’s good that you feel that way. I’d wish that was the case for the local bicyclers too.
Cars are obviously expected to slow down and keep behind the biker till able to pass (that’s the law, though drivers often attempt too close passes anyway), that said, when walking on narrow pathways in the woods, cyclists will often come cycling way too fast and ring - without slowing down any significant amount - and apparently expecting me to jump to the side to not be hit.
I’ve had multiple close-hits, and they’ll start screaming and be abusive if you don’t give way (you know, since they’re faster than you, and it’s inconvenient for them to slow down just because of you). And no, the forest road is not a mountain biking path. Contrary, the paths are usually footpaths that are destroyed by the bicycles plowing up the loose dirt - the good side being, that the small roads often change and stay exciting.
There are a lot of good bicyclers out there, but I generally feel that the (locally) worst cyclers are the sporty ones and those who freely disregard the law. It’s almost like “I’m not in a car but still faster than the walking plebians, so I can do whatever I like without real consequences”.
I very much wish for proper, separated, biking paths, though that’s mostly for my own comfort as it won’t keep me from running into the two types of bicyclers described above. :(
Edit: Sorry, this got wayy too long. Good night. x)
I think you might just be describing the fact that humans suck and lack empathy rather than a specific mode of transit sucking. Everyone seems to expect that the burden of “paying attention and being empathetic” belongs on others. Sure, there might be some negligible affinity for one mode or another among the biggest assholes, but I’m a firm believer in the fact that 90% of people are just petulant asses who will pay zero attention the moment they get into their car/boat/bike/scooter/moped and then turn around and winge about the injustice of it when someone does it to them the next time they’re on foot. I don’t expect decency from other humans because I’ve seen what they do to public restrooms and places when they think nobody is watching. Immediate reversion to their inner goblin.
Nah, splitting to pass and filtering to the front reduces stress of traffic. Also the physical action of operating a bike plus more opportunities to use more than 10% of your vehicles performance gives more dopamine, unlike driving.
It’s because driving is fundamentally stressful and requires you to be ‘on the ball’ or risk death. You constantly have to adjust speed and positioning, and monitor everyone around you just in case they make a mistake. Sure, most of this eventually becomes automatic, but that doesn’t mean it isn’t stressful - just that you don’t think about how stressful it is. It’s the most uncomfortable thing people usually do in their day.
Driving is a stressful task in many places, especially when the road crosses lanes 2 times to accommodate a freeway. We are moving giant hunks of metal, and as much as I work to chill myself out, I make silly mistakes that scare and stress other drivers, and visa-versa.
Nothing to do with “drivers” as such. People on public transit are the same. There’s this one guy who yelled at the top of his lungs “GET THE FUCK OUT OF THE WAAAAAY!” when people didn’t let people off the metro first. That’s not an inconvenience as much as a brain failure in the other people, but…
(I’m avoiding that station until people forget what I look like.)
No no no that guy was 100% right, you let people off or youre slowing everything down. I suppress the urge to yell that every time I get on the subway.
But lmao no public transit is not as stressful. People take naps on trains and buses all the time. I very rarely see people sleeping while riding a car or bike.
Every time I board a subway in China or Korea, I should carry a projector and show the people waiting how good the Japanese are at getting on and off subways. As long as it’s a platform with a full wall, and not the half wall a mob of people could potentially chuck you over.
I don’t understand how, but somehow drivers seem to be the biggest whinny cunts on the planet. I feel like 80% of drivers rage from the smallest of inconveniences, if you inconvenience them for even a few seconds they’ll yell at you or flip you off. God forbid someone not notice the bonus right-turn green arrow. I feel like every time I see that everyone behind them wants to bring hell down upon them and curse their entire lineage for even existing. Even people I know personally that are typically very nice and aren’t prone to getting angry get irrationally mad at people they see on the street for such trivial things. It’s amazing.
I get especially annoyed at lights when people are slow to react. You know why? 9 times out of 10 theyre on their phones and not paying attention. Thats what makes me angry, not the delay.
I get that, but I also sometimes see the people behind them when walking completely loose their shit from that, visibly angry, leaning in, yelling and honking, which I feel is a bit overkill.
Honking is like the most not overkill thing ever when a car isn’t moving at a green light
I don’t know where you learned to drive, but I clearly remember that lesson from driving school “honking is only to be used in case of immediate danger”. Which, here, is clearly not the case.
Cars really need a variety of horns. Like one that politely says “pardon me, do you happen to have any grey poupon?” and one that says “move or I’ll rip yer fucken eyeballs out!”
Trucks in SEA often do, they have this warbling “hey, I’m here”, and then a much more aggressive “get the fuck out of the way!”. People also modulate their bike horn to just give a little chirp so the person you’re passing knows you’re there, or two to say thank you, 3+ loud ones to say “get out of the way”, etc
One long hold — aggressive A gentle “beep beep”, seems more friendly. At least, to me, and I hope that’s how it’s perceived.
I do the beep beep at red-turn green lights, but try to wait a little. It’s midly annoying if a driver doesn’t react quick enough but driving is a frustrating enough experience as it is. No need to add fuel to the fire, so to speak. I’ve been beeped at the moment the lights turned green, and at the time, my foot was already pressing the gas. I felt embarrassed… my car does not react that quickly!
Honestly the act of driving just makes people mad. They know they can go fast, so they are entitled to. Anything that gets in the way of them going fast induces anger.
Biking on the other hand…
Aslo people pay like 80k for their plus size vehicle then cry about everyone else using the same roads.
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… appears to be just as bad, and they often don’t even keep to biking roads (eg. biking through “no-biking” pedestrian streets and getting angry at the pedestrians being all over the place, or biking over the pedestrian crossings, etc.).
But your first statement rings true.
I personally feel far less rage biking. It’s probably because most of the time I’m out of breath. Plus it’s hard to be too mad when you’re exercising.
I just feel fear cycling. Like when a 53’ long semi passes a foot away from me. Ironically most of my near-miss brushes with death have involved school buses - it’s ironic because I’m a school bus driver. One time I even got smacked in the leg by a school bus’ crossing arm.
Yikes. Hope you get better biking infrastructure!
It’s good that you feel that way. I’d wish that was the case for the local bicyclers too.
Cars are obviously expected to slow down and keep behind the biker till able to pass (that’s the law, though drivers often attempt too close passes anyway), that said, when walking on narrow pathways in the woods, cyclists will often come cycling way too fast and ring - without slowing down any significant amount - and apparently expecting me to jump to the side to not be hit.
I’ve had multiple close-hits, and they’ll start screaming and be abusive if you don’t give way (you know, since they’re faster than you, and it’s inconvenient for them to slow down just because of you). And no, the forest road is not a mountain biking path. Contrary, the paths are usually footpaths that are destroyed by the bicycles plowing up the loose dirt - the good side being, that the small roads often change and stay exciting.
There are a lot of good bicyclers out there, but I generally feel that the (locally) worst cyclers are the sporty ones and those who freely disregard the law. It’s almost like “I’m not in a car but still faster than the walking plebians, so I can do whatever I like without real consequences”.
I very much wish for proper, separated, biking paths, though that’s mostly for my own comfort as it won’t keep me from running into the two types of bicyclers described above. :(
Edit: Sorry, this got wayy too long. Good night. x)
I think you might just be describing the fact that humans suck and lack empathy rather than a specific mode of transit sucking. Everyone seems to expect that the burden of “paying attention and being empathetic” belongs on others. Sure, there might be some negligible affinity for one mode or another among the biggest assholes, but I’m a firm believer in the fact that 90% of people are just petulant asses who will pay zero attention the moment they get into their car/boat/bike/scooter/moped and then turn around and winge about the injustice of it when someone does it to them the next time they’re on foot. I don’t expect decency from other humans because I’ve seen what they do to public restrooms and places when they think nobody is watching. Immediate reversion to their inner goblin.
Nah, splitting to pass and filtering to the front reduces stress of traffic. Also the physical action of operating a bike plus more opportunities to use more than 10% of your vehicles performance gives more dopamine, unlike driving.
It’s because driving is fundamentally stressful and requires you to be ‘on the ball’ or risk death. You constantly have to adjust speed and positioning, and monitor everyone around you just in case they make a mistake. Sure, most of this eventually becomes automatic, but that doesn’t mean it isn’t stressful - just that you don’t think about how stressful it is. It’s the most uncomfortable thing people usually do in their day.
Driving is a stressful task in many places, especially when the road crosses lanes 2 times to accommodate a freeway. We are moving giant hunks of metal, and as much as I work to chill myself out, I make silly mistakes that scare and stress other drivers, and visa-versa.
Nothing to do with “drivers” as such. People on public transit are the same. There’s this one guy who yelled at the top of his lungs “GET THE FUCK OUT OF THE WAAAAAY!” when people didn’t let people off the metro first. That’s not an inconvenience as much as a brain failure in the other people, but…
(I’m avoiding that station until people forget what I look like.)
No no no that guy was 100% right, you let people off or youre slowing everything down. I suppress the urge to yell that every time I get on the subway.
But lmao no public transit is not as stressful. People take naps on trains and buses all the time. I very rarely see people sleeping while riding a car or bike.
That guy … was ME!!!
Every time I board a subway in China or Korea, I should carry a projector and show the people waiting how good the Japanese are at getting on and off subways. As long as it’s a platform with a full wall, and not the half wall a mob of people could potentially chuck you over.
Sounds complicated. I just shove people out of the way. Unless they’re kids, old people, or infirm in some way.
Patience is a true virtue, and most lack it 100%