Most anti-Zionists consider all Jews in Israel to be settlers. Service in the IDF is mandatory. So you end up with half the world’s Jews in camps. Plus of course the Druze in Israel.
Now, consider the fact that they used “settler” and “IDF” separately. That tells me that they actually don’t believe every single Jew in Israel is a settler, and in fact they are referring specifically to the illegal settler movement that is actively and continually stealing more land as we speak.
So. All members of the active and ongoing settler movement and IDF members. At this point, no IDF member can be assumed innocent, and the settlers are already breaking the law.
Half of Jews live in Israel. 80% of Jews worldwide are Zionists, if not more.
Among the anti-Zionists the words settlers, occupation, Zionist have different definitions. The most extreme use these words to appeal to moderates, who then think they are in agreement.
When Hamas speaks about settlers and occupation they mean all of Israel and all Jews living there. The naive western activist doesn’t understand that though and erroneously thinks it’s about the West Bank only. The idea of killing or pushing out the Jews/settlers/Zionists, which are used interchangeably in Arabic, and taking back their ancestors houses they still have the key to, is mainstream among Palestinians.
A similar thing happens when Jew is replaced with Zionist by extremists. Suddenly it become far more palatable even though most Jews are Zionists, as in believe Israel should exist. Antisemites love this little trick. The use of the word Zionist has moved the meaning a lot. It’s now closer to just mean evil Jew. Which is exactly how far right antisemites have used this word for decades in terms like ZOG.
Hamas also routinely uses the following argument: there are no Israeli civilians because they all serve in the IDF.
I agree that soldiers who have committed war crimes and politicians who ordered crimes against humanity should be brought to justice.
I am saying that people who have committed or supported crimes need to be held responsible by law.
This has nothing to do with their religion or ethnicity. There is many Jews who want nothing to do with Israel or actively oppose its crimes. It is unfair, to lump them in with the genocidal criminals of the IDF and their supporters.
It is crucial to arrest the criminals, who often have committed crimes such as rape, torture, kidnapping and murder to protect the innocent Civilians.
Over a million people would have to be detained though. How do you do that without violating human rights? Quarantine the ‘country’? Build 50 mega prisons?
You are advocating for putting more than 80% of Jews in camps.
Settlers and IDF members make up more than 80% of the world’s Jews?
80 % of Jews are Zionists.
Most anti-Zionists consider all Jews in Israel to be settlers. Service in the IDF is mandatory. So you end up with half the world’s Jews in camps. Plus of course the Druze in Israel.
Okay, so we’ve gone from “80%” to “half.”
Interesting.
Now, consider the fact that they used “settler” and “IDF” separately. That tells me that they actually don’t believe every single Jew in Israel is a settler, and in fact they are referring specifically to the illegal settler movement that is actively and continually stealing more land as we speak.
So. All members of the active and ongoing settler movement and IDF members. At this point, no IDF member can be assumed innocent, and the settlers are already breaking the law.
Half of Jews live in Israel. 80% of Jews worldwide are Zionists, if not more.
Among the anti-Zionists the words settlers, occupation, Zionist have different definitions. The most extreme use these words to appeal to moderates, who then think they are in agreement.
When Hamas speaks about settlers and occupation they mean all of Israel and all Jews living there. The naive western activist doesn’t understand that though and erroneously thinks it’s about the West Bank only. The idea of killing or pushing out the Jews/settlers/Zionists, which are used interchangeably in Arabic, and taking back their ancestors houses they still have the key to, is mainstream among Palestinians.
A similar thing happens when Jew is replaced with Zionist by extremists. Suddenly it become far more palatable even though most Jews are Zionists, as in believe Israel should exist. Antisemites love this little trick. The use of the word Zionist has moved the meaning a lot. It’s now closer to just mean evil Jew. Which is exactly how far right antisemites have used this word for decades in terms like ZOG.
Hamas also routinely uses the following argument: there are no Israeli civilians because they all serve in the IDF.
I agree that soldiers who have committed war crimes and politicians who ordered crimes against humanity should be brought to justice.
I am saying that people who have committed or supported crimes need to be held responsible by law.
This has nothing to do with their religion or ethnicity. There is many Jews who want nothing to do with Israel or actively oppose its crimes. It is unfair, to lump them in with the genocidal criminals of the IDF and their supporters.
It is crucial to arrest the criminals, who often have committed crimes such as rape, torture, kidnapping and murder to protect the innocent Civilians.
Pretty sure they mean bc it sounds like you’re implying anyone who’s been in the IDF should be detained, and IDF service is mandatory
Detained until it is established that they haven’t committed any crimes. Such is the normal procedure for suspects of murder and other serious crimes.
However there is also people who have refused service, so it is not strictly mandatory, but remains a choice.
Over a million people would have to be detained though. How do you do that without violating human rights? Quarantine the ‘country’? Build 50 mega prisons?
So was Hitler Youth.