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    Another solution would be to add a second audio stream (2.1) and let the viewer choose how to watch their movie.

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      Do you also want to add different video streams for smaller TV’s ?

      What you want is a made-for-TV adaptation of the same story, but that wouldn’t be the same movie. Watching a movie is an experience, and you simply cannot reproduce experience that on a small TV with 2.0 audio. Even if they did a 2.0 mix, you won’t get the same sense of awe that you get when you watch it in a theater. What is even the point of watching it if it cannot make you feel that?

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        Watching a movie is an experience, and you simply cannot reproduce experience that on a small TV with 2.0 audio.

        You heard it here guys, enjoying a movie on a normal TV or an iPad is simply wrong and you should feel bad for wanting to be able to understand the dialogue. I guess it makes sense that a BorgDrone would be intolerably inflexible and demand people conform to their unrealistic standards.

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          You heard it here guys, enjoying a movie on a normal TV or an iPad is simply wrong

          It’s simply pointless. Like listening to music with your ears plugged. Why even bother watching a movie like that?

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            I’ve literally watched 2001: A Space Odyssey on the plain in mono because my seat’s audio was broken and I was trying to use my IEMs without an adapter. I had a great experience, in part because I love more about the movie than just the visual and auditory delivery. I like the story and philosophy as well.

            You may not have enjoyed it in that setting, but please don’t gatekeep the experience. It’s also worth mentioning that a lot for movies are, unlike 2001, not art.

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              I had a great experience, in part because I love more about the movie than just the visual and auditory delivery. I like the story and philosophy as well.

              A chain is a strong as its weakest link. You want to tick all boxes, not just half of them.

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                That is a non-answer. You argued that it is “simply pointless” to watch a movie in the same setting I did.

                I disagree. I very much enjoyed the experience, ergo it was not pointless: it brought me pleasure.

                I was just pointing out that it is indeed possible for people (maybe not you, but other people) to enjoy movies without the luxuries that you afford yourself. You asked a question (“why even bother watching a movie like that”) and I answered.

                I also ask that you take into consideration that not everyone can afford to watch a movie with the luxuries you describe. That is ok too. Please don’t gatekeep watching movies is all I ask.

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              Doesn’t it bother you immensely that you’re getting a subpar experience? Even if you enjoy it, doesn’t just knowing it could be so much better suck all the enjoyment out of it?

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                Nah, most things in life don’t have to be either flawless or complete garbage with no in between. There’s plenty of movies and shows I watch for the writing or acting, and the sound is not going to make or break the experience. Being 100% unable to enjoy anything if it’s not absolutely perfect seems like a pretty bleak way to go through life, I try to find enjoyment where I can.

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                No, not at all. I just want to watch a movie in bed on my tablet before bed.

                But it sure sounds like it bothers you a lot.

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                  This is what I can’t stand about you humans. This tendency to be okay with mediocrity.

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                    you humans

                    Errrrr. Are you not human? Has this all been a satire of rich obnoxious spoiled people who don’t even consider themselves human anymore? Are you Elon Musk?

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                    Aren’t you the one who’s okay with audio mixing you need subtitles to understand?

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        They already include multiple audio streams for language selection. In fact, watching a movie in a different language than it was originally produced in doesn’t perfectly “reproduce the experience” either. Jokes get cut, names and acronyms change, and cultural references are either altered or become too foreign for the culture of the new audience to instantly recognize.

        Offering a different experience of a movie isn’t unusual. Maybe I can’t understand a Miyazaki film to the extent that he fully intended, because I don’t understand Japanese. But that doesn’t mean there’s no point in watching it.

        As well, some people don’t want to experience super loud explosions. They’re content not having that aspect of “the experience” for a variety of reasons. Some people have PTSD. Some people have irritable neighbors, or kids who are trying to sleep. Some people suffer from tinnitis and would appreciate not having the rest of the movie drowned out by a loud ringing inside their own heads.

        In many ways, a stream without such dynamic noises provides accessibility to people who wouldn’t be able to enjoy the movie otherwise. You can still enjoy a movie however you want. The rest of us just want an option.

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          They already include multiple audio streams for language selection. In fact, watching a movie in a different language than it was originally produced in doesn’t perfectly “reproduce the experience” either. Jokes get cut, names and acronyms change, and cultural references are either altered or become too foreign for the culture of the new audience to instantly recognize.

          Don’t me started on that one… it’s a fscking disgrace.

          As well, some people don’t want to experience super loud explosions. They’re content not having that aspect of “the experience” for a variety of reasons.

          But then you don’t want to watch that movie, you want to watch a different movie, one they didn’t make. Movies are art, you don’t go changing art to fit your taste, you experience it as it was meant to be experienced. Imagine if we did that with other art forms.

          If you don’t want loud explosions, pick a different movie.

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            it’s a fscking disgrace.

            Please don’t provide alternate stream for censored cursing. It’s a disgrace. I want the same sense of awe that I get when I hear it in a theater. What is even the point of reading it if it cannot make me feel that?

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              Please don’t provide alternate stream for censored cursing.

              Not censored, just nerd-humor that went over your head.

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            Oof, as an artist myself, I’d be understanding if somebody wanted to tweak something I made in order to make it more accessible.

            But you know what? You do you, man. I can tell you’re a person with conviction, and though I disagree with your opinion, I respect your passion for art integrity.