• lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    2 days ago

    As Naomi Klein said: Conspiracy theorists often get the feeling right but the facts wrong.

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      24 hours ago

      If you’re into literature and willing to explore the absurdity of conspiracy theorists then Foucault’s Pendulum by Humberto Eco is a great read.

      And somehow prophetic regarding the post truth world…

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      2 days ago

      i have an ur-conspiracy theory that every elaborate conspiracy theory is a distraction from a simple and straightforward conspiracy. for every “trump is trying to uncover a vast child sex ring” there’s a “trump fucks kids and our system of capital protects him”

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        That kind of sums up the difference Naomi Klein makes in Doppelganger about conspiracy theory and leftist critics: Leftists will look at the system while conspiracy theorists will assume the system is good but some people, most often Jews, have somehow corrupted it.

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          Im sure you know Cory Doctrorow already but i still wanted to share this little section from one of his recent blogposts.

          https://pluralistic.net/2025/07/19/systemic/

          Trump’s conspiratorial base are hugely and reliably animated by stories about impunity for elite sex predators. As well they should be! Elite sex predators get away with all kinds of crimes – not just Epstein, but the whole universe of powerful men, from Harvey Weinstein to Donald Trump, who systematically abused women for decades and got away with it – bragged about it, even!

          But despite these very real abusers, the conspiracists in the Trump base are mostly concerned with imaginary abusers – Qanon’s shadowy cabal of adrenochrome-guzzling pedophiles, tirelessly freighting trafficked children from one nonexistent pizza parlor basement to the next, packed inside of very mid Wayfair home furnishings:

          https://pluralistic.net/2021/07/05/ideomotor-response/#qonspiracy

          This is the “mirror world” of right wing conspiracism described in Naomi Klein’s Doppelganger:

          https://pluralistic.net/2023/09/05/not-that-naomi/#if-the-naomi-be-klein-youre-doing-just-fine

          It’s the world in which real suffering children (kids in cages, children rotting in Alligator Auschwitz, kids working the night-shift at a meat-packing plant) don’t matter at all, while imaginary children (unborn children, Qanon victims, etc) take center stage.

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            The general difference, though unspoken, is that the kids being “trafficked” in their heads are white middle class suburban kids. A lot of conspiracy simply leads back to antisemitism, white supremacy, or both.