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    We live closer in time to the first T-Rex than the first T-Rex does to the last Stegosuraus

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        Due to its tiny arms and non-pentadigit hands the T-Rex would commonly high five with its teeth. This lead to the T-Rex being unfortunately labeld a carnivore.

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          And not so high; more close.

          Close 3s, we can be assured, we’re quite popular until the event.

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            Maybe that’s why the Pachycephalosaurus had thick skulls and kept head butting each other, they were just trying to close 5 but their heads kept getting in the way (apparently these actually had 5 fingers)

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      McSorleys in NYC was men only until a 1970 legal ruling, and didn’t have a women’s restroom until 1986.

      Their motto prior to 1970 was “Good Ale, Raw Onions and No Ladies”

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        Nothing more manly than being surrounded by dudes and raw onions while getting drunk because you’re too much of a wuss to go to therapy or even address emotional trauma yourself.

        I also like how they had a gender neutral bathroom.

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    Back before the 1970’s if a woman was travelling she’d have her husband or a porter carry her bags. With the rise of women travelling alone there was suddenly a market for wheeled bags. Men didn’t want them because they made men look too weak to carry their own luggage.

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      Fellas is it weak to not carry your 50lb suitcase everywhere? Definitionally yes but oh my god how fragile.

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    It’s 2025 and my invention idea from the 1980’s, the glow in the dark toilet seat, still hasn’t taken off. Makes me want to quit inventing.

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    Almost no “traditional” recipes are older than 150 years.

    Edit: i meant meals, not basic fare.

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    Fun fact: boomers entered the workforce before credit scores existed. Credit scores were created in 1989, but people treat them like they were in the bible.

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      Do people want to go back to the system that was used before credit scores? Where the person serving the loan just made the choice based off if they thought you seemed trustworthy? Aka were a white man who went to the same church as them.

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          Every system is racist because every system is human and humans are flawed. Credit scores include systemic racism and banks making calls based on their gut is direct practiced racism. Systemic racism is much easier to slowly over time work out as long as you recognize it. But the only way to stop direct racism is to take at least some of the power away from individuals.

          The systemic racism like the structural one in the argument can only be gotten rid of if you entirely removed the concepts of loans. The problem with that is it is impossible. The majority of the folks who have attempted to outlaw usury and loans entirely are not really looked back upon fondly in a historical sense.

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            OR, maybe we need to make a new system. It’s not just credit scores or total anarchy, have some imagination, fuck.

            For example, maybe a system where paying your credit card off on time or consistently having enough cash to not even need a credit card means that your “score” goes up. If it is truly about being reliable then that’s a no brainer, and yet…

            We also shouldn’t be needing so much in the way of loans anyway and we deal with that by forcing minimum wage increases. It’s insane how much people have to put on cards and how normal it is to barely manage a monthly payment on a 30-40 year mortgage. The US and Canada specifically demand that you own a car and the weather is often very hard on them, too, yet once again the prices go up and up and you have to hope for the best that you can afford the payments which hide their increases behind and extended term or only a few more dollars which adds up to thousands on the other end.

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        Maybe the answer is less reliance on a debt based economy. Maybe the answer is to not bake into the fabric of society a mechanism that makes a lifetime of debt a foregone conclusion. Kill the loan shark for all I care. Why does everyone need a loan? Because it’s built to require one.

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          In an economy where skill (supposedly) correlates to income, income is expected to increase across a lifetime.

          Therefore 25 year-old me borrowing excess income from 45 year-old me is a good thing, purely egotistically.

          Furthermore lack of debt means every big purchase is preceded by hoarding. No matter which way you look at it this is bad for society. If I had 50k€ laying around it would be much more efficient resource-wise to lend it to my neighbor so they can build up their business, than to keep the money under my mattress and tell them to tighten their belt for another five years. They get a business, I get a bit more money in the end, everyone is richer and the economy is stronger.

          Economics are not a zero-sum game. This belief that “if someone is making money then someone else is getting robbed” is deeply damaging, especially as it seems to be the main economic driver for Trump’s batshit insane administration.

          Debt is good. Predatory practices are not. That is what regulations are supposed to curtail. Where I live “credit scores” are not a thing, banks only loan to you based on proof of income, a declaration of open credit lines, and your civil status (age, partnership status, dependent people). Racism and sexism are of course an issue, although if caught the banks face big fines. But it’s not like American credit scores are colorblind…

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            That was a great writeup. I see that “someone earning money hurts everyone else” mentality on Lemmy constantly, its maddeningly stupid.

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            Ok, so, telling lenders they cannot vet lenders is not reasonable.

            Our critiques of credit scores does not automatically mean we want them abolished in favor the previous wink and a handshake.

            But American credit scores don’t measure your likelihood to pay back debts, they measure the likelihood of a lender to make money off of you. Those are nearly, but not quite, the same thing, and our current system, as the previous poster said, leads to a lifetime of debt obligations.

            What we want is for life to not be dependant on debt.

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              Those are very different things.

              The whole American credit system is frightening. You all but have to own a credit card (here they are only used by people travelling internationally), the credit card needs to be paid off manually (!?!? my bank just auto-withdraws the balance monthly), etc.

              Here we employ a straightforward system to vet potential lenders : mortgages almost always have a contractual stipulation that you must use that bank to cash in your paychecks. Your bank will ask for proof of a stable income. You have to put down a downpayment. Defaulting on a mortgage furthermore puts you in a government registry; it’s not “a wink and a handshake” as you put it, but a formal tightly-regulated process.

              There is nothing that the credit score system does that the Belgian system doesn’t achieve, except the part where it enables banks to prey on people through a privately owned and unregulated system used to push citizens towards short-term credit and needlessly dangerous financing habits. A 30 year-old with 50k€ in a savings account and no credit history sounds to me like someone who “should” get a mortgage a lot more than someone juggling 3 credit cards and a 10-year car loan. But the american credit system incentivizes the opposite. That is anarcho-capitalist predation.

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        That’s not so bad even

        Aka were a white man who went to the same church as them.

        in this case, because that’s a local direct connection as opposed to centralized.

        The world works better when people help those closer in the society to them first. That’s also how routing metrics work in computer networks. This might seem gibberish, but I had a less fuzzy explanation, just forgot it.

        Ah. Evolution. Connections form dependency both ways. And there’s always evolution in the society. It’s in your interest that racists would mostly connect to other racists, while smarter people to other smarter people, and dumber people to other dumber people, for evolution to work. Except, of course, that should preserve some mobility between these groups so that smarter people born in not so smart environment could change it, again for social evolution.

        It’s important, somehow mostly talking about evolution in present time is attributed to fascists, while it can be seen everywhere.

        In some sense who you are, who the person giving a loan is, and how that affects getting a loan is a predictive mechanism. It should work or fail for evolution.

        Credit scores are a path around that similarly to Soviet planned economy being a path around markets, see how it worked that USSR, rich with resources beyond belief, had mostly poor and even malnourished population.

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          The world doesn’t work better if people help those closest to them. The majority of the strife in the world exists because people help those close to them and treat others as outsiders. You can look at any system ever used and the point of failure is always someone tipping the scales intentionally to favor those near them.

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            You can look at any system ever used and the point of failure is always someone tipping the scales intentionally to favor those near them.

            A bandit kills a traveler, the former is to blame because he initiated the action, the latter is to blame for being unarmed.

            Those “tipping the scales intentionally to favor those near them” succeed because others don’t help those closer to them first.

            And you can tell worthy endeavor from unworthy one better when it’s someone close to you. Thus more often helping the good things and more rarely helping the bad things.

            So no, it does. Those near to you are on the opposite side of the spectrum from states, ideas and -isms. They are also more like you, as opposed to things you don’t know. Your life is just your own life. Unique and only one.

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            The document you’ve linked talks about common perceptions and not much else, it’s short.

            Anyway, nutrition is not just about amount of calories, one can consume a lot of calories but get scurvy.

            BTW, the reason Soviet scurvy stats were not atrocious is that “sea cabbage” older generations remember (and hate, but it was there) being present in stores despite any deficit, and that all salt sold for food was iodised.

            So - first, I’m not talking about amount of calories, second, I’ve read American food is notoriously bad nutrition-wise. Comparing USSR to Finland might be a better one.

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      Credit scores may be relatively new, but Equifax as a company existed since 1899 as “Retail Credit Company” and has always done some form of credit reporting.

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        I’m an early Gen X. I was working shit jobs until the 90s/my early 20s.

        It isn’t like many of us were planing on buying a house by 1989.

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    Carbonara was invented around 1950.

    No respect will be afforded to Italian cuisine based on this fact

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      If you really want to rustle their jimmies, remind them that tomatoes came from South America, and weren’t introduced until westward exploration.

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        Why would anybody care? The only thing that matters is who uses them to make good stuff.

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        While true, this can be done by Italians to other nations with Worcestershire sauce, baklava and principate though.

        And borsch wasn’t red. It’s called because of the plant that was the main ingredient.

        Which is mostly not used now because of its intentionally bred toxic relative being a really problematic invasive species in all of former USSR and around.

        And another thing that “wasn’t introduced until westward exploration” is English-speaking Americans

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    This is a dumb one, but I’ve watched ASMR reiki videos for stress-relief and at least one has said words like “Reiki is an ancient Japanese technique which blah blab blah” Yeah… It was made up in the 50’s 1910s by some dude.

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      If reiki(dot)org, which claims to be the international center for this malarkey training is true, they apparently say some different forms of it were around in the 1910s, but I saw absolutely nothing about it being ancient.

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        Yeah, it looks like you’re right. Not sure what I read years ago. This is what Wikipedia says:

        Mikao Usui originated the practice in Japan. According to the inscription on his memorial stone, Usui taught his system of reiki to more than 2,000 people during his lifetime. While teaching reiki in Fukuyama, Usui suffered a stroke and died on 9 March 1926.

        So, apparently before 1926. Still, really far away from “ancient”.

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        Why did you spell that with a “(dot)” and then include an actual link? The reason people use (dot) or (at) is when they don’t want software to automatically see something as a link or an email address, and yet you intentionally added a link.

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          Because I am an idiot on some form of autopilot. I never type full links in comments but I definitely wasn’t thinking when I did that this time.

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    Chicken tikka masala was supposedly only invented in the 1960s - 1970s. Butter chicken only in the 1950s. Now I’m scared to look up naan for fear of learning it was invented by Nestle in 1994 or whatever.

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      Naan is safe.

      General Tso’s chicken on the other hand, is another 1960s invention.

      Same with orange chicken.

      In fact, most “Chinese” food that Americans or Brits eat was invented in the 60s or 70s.

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        I find it preposterous to believe that nobody made these dishes before the 1960s. Surely people did. They just weren’t popular or have the branding associated.

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          New dishes are invented all the time.

          But the reason who these two are so ubiquitous is simple.

          General Tso’s chicken was featured on 60 minutes. The guy being interviewed showed how to make the dish with each ingredient. After that, it quickly showed up on every Chinese restaurant menu.

          Orange chicken was specifically designed for American tastes by Panda Garden, which then spawned imitators.

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        Some of it was invented by Japanese-American restaurateurs (fortune cookies are one example), who were in the same business as the Chinese ones: using their knowledge to make cheap, satisfying food that the locals would like, authenticity being no consideration. It all got labelled as “Chinese”, because that’s where they assumed the cooks were from.

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          Well it’s not like Japanese or Chinese (or Italian or British or French or Danish or Mexican) chefs stopped inventing new dishes. Tonkotsu ramen was invented in the 1930’s. The original Kung Pao Chicken was invented sometime in the mid 19th century, in China. And General Tso’s was probably invented in Taiwan and brought to the United States shortly afterward.

          Whether a dish is invented in its ostensibly “home” country or by emigrants from that country doesn’t actually change the legitimacy of the dish. There’s no rule against chefs inventing new dishes, whether they are immigrants or not.

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            That makes me think of Lomo Saltado. It’s a beef and veggie stir fry you can get at Peruvian restaurants and considered a Peruvian dish. It’s delicious, one of my favorites. But it was actually invented by Chinese immigrants in Peru. So if you follow those same rules, if General Tsos was made by Chinese immigrants in Taiwan, then in other countries, it would be considered a Taiwanese dish. Or if was actually made it America it would be an American dish. Or is that all wrong and I should be able to get Lomo Saltado from a Chinese restaurant?

            Doesn’t matter, it’s all delicious to me.

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        And most of it wholly invented in the US, too. Hardly any Chinese takeout is legitimate food that is eaten in China, but an Americanized facsimile. Iirc almost all US Chinese restaurants are legit sourced from the same company in terms of most of their recipes and even their decorations and stuff like the “chinese zodiac” placemats

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    1905 is a milestone of modern physics, because it’s when Special Relativity came out.

    That’s older than the transistor, which was commercialized in 1951. But it’s also older than the vacuum tube triode, which was invented in 1906 or 1908.

    In 1905, there were no amplifiers of any kind (though there were relay switches). There was almost no radio. The triode was a necessary invention for almost all of analog electronics.

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    The high five thing always fucks me up. Mostly because I’ll see it in movies about WW2 and other historical things that it shouldn’t be in and I always have to say something lol.

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    No diss, but Kwanzaa was invented in the 1960s. It’s not like a directly african tribally descended thing, though inspired by some (mostly Swahili and Zulu), it’s something made for black american pride and reflection.