I guess the data mining was the missing ingredient for popularity?
As far as I remember, vine didnt really fail, it was just killed off one day.
It was growing too. It just wasn’t profitable.
These days we have much cheaper ways to handle uploading and downloading insane amounts of video content (if you’re interested, I recommend checking out some System Design resources on TikTok or YouTube), but it’s pretty much all CDN and slightly more efficient backend services). We also have better ways to monetize platforms. Like data. Buttt ByteDance is also trying to do things like set up physical goods stores/etc, and it’s 2024 where userbase and brand name is more important than actual revenue anyways.
Can you link some of these system design ressources?
This one is good https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghYbFgeqXa0 (on plane atm otherwise I’d link his actual sources too, which he talks about in the start)
Here is an alternative Piped link(s):
https://www.piped.video/watch?v=ghYbFgeqXa0
Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.
I’m open-source; check me out at GitHub.
Personally I dont see the appeal in the short video format in general and I really don’t understand why it has become so popular.
That’s because you were born before 2005 and still have some semblance of an attention span
Fucking this. Zoomers were raised with gifs and algorithms sinking any video longer than 5 minutes to the depths of search results. Every media outlet wanted these people to only be able to read the clickbait title, click it, and immediately be distracted by flashy, animated ad. Their brainwashing is insanely successful. To me a tiktok or instagram scrolling looks like a feverish dream of constantly changing colors and shapes, nothing that resembles content that you want to focus on.
Some pre 2005 people are zoomers tho, the oldest zoomers are 24. Gen Alpha might be more fitting.
Yeah I’m pre-2005 and still look back on Vine fondly. The difference I think is that Vine was genuinely kind of innocent. It didn’t have a massive corporate backing until the one that killed it, and there wasn’t really a way to monetize it back then. It was just a goofy place on the internet with weird, niche content that was also ubiquitous amongst the younger generations. It sadly laid the grounds for TikTok, but it needs to be remembered that Vine was killed because it wasn’t monetizable, at least not back then. It’s the difference between early internet and corporate internet.
I didn’t understand the appeal of Twitter, Vine even less so, and TikTok just baffles me. Here I was thinking that building meaningful platforms with an abundance of excellent communication options was the best path forward, and the majority of people just wanted a 4 second video that breaks half the time, with no player controls, and shit covering three quarters of the screen. Well alriiiighty then!
They aren’t the same app just renamed?
You are thinking of Musical.ly
Ok but aren’t Tiktok and Musically literally the same app?
Yup they are same musicaly got rebranded to Tiktok